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Lethe

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I won't take your bait. I didn't even read most of your post, I find them extremely brainless.

Anyways, just for the record, most of Europe doesn't consider Russia as European. The fact that you are claiming Yandex and Telegram to European is quite funny and just shows how less you know about Europe and Europeans, my dear brain-dead Indian.

I don't know what this discussion is about and don't care to find out. This post was just top of the page when I refreshed the page.

IMO, personal insults such as this should not be tolerated here.

The question of whether Russia is part of Europe is a complicated one with no clear answer, not least of all because "Europe" is just a term for the westernmost portion of the great Eurasian continent with no clear geographical demarcation. But just as it is oversimplifying to say that Russia is part of Europe, so is it oversimplifying to say that it is not.
 
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machupicu

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"However, Intel's FPGA business, which generates most of its programmable solutions group (PSG) revenue, faces a less certain future in China because its Altera chips power Huawei's 5G stations (these are a
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in the escalating tech war between the U.S. and China). Intel's statement about "certain" types of chips hints that those chips could still be banned.

Yet Intel can afford to lose those orders since its PSG business generated just 2.5% of its revenue last quarter. Intel doesn't disclose the PSG segment's exact revenue from China, but we know that the chipmaker generated 28% of its total revenue in China last year. As such, Intel's FPGA sales to Huawei likely account for less than 1% of its total revenue.

These new license approvals should allay some concerns about Intel and AMD's future in China, but they also indicate the Trump administration isn't ready to completely cut Huawei off from American chips. That hesitation mirrors the Chinese
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to blacklist U.S. tech companies.


Both sides seem hesitant because their technologies and businesses are still too tightly intertwined. Moreover, cutting off Huawei from American chips would force Chinese chipmakers to accelerate the development of their
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-- which could harm
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Shaolian

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Don't count Huawei out, if you look at its smartphones it started small and 10+ yrs later wow. Ev is still at its early stages, there are 7+ billions ppl on earth, so even if HW captures just 10-15% of ww mkt that's still a huge number.

I think Gelgoog wasn't counting Huawei out, but just commenting on the shallowness of the headline, because Chinese EV companies like Nio, Xpeng and BYD are already giving Tesla a run for its money. The headline were behaving as if it doesn't know of this fact.

Although, having said this, it could just be the nature of current click-baity headline trends, because the article irself did proceed to give a more in-depth explanation.
 

mderfox

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I think Gelgoog wasn't counting Huawei out, but just commenting on the shallowness of the headline, because Chinese EV companies like Nio, Xpeng and BYD are already giving Tesla a run for its money. The headline were behaving as if it doesn't know of this fact.

Although, having said this, it could just be the nature of current click-baity headline trends, because the article irself did proceed to give a more in-depth explanation.
If im not mistaken, Huawei position it self as system providers. With many automobile client it will threat to tesla on self driving car.
 

Weaasel

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Chish

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Huawei and indeed China as entity itself will be foolish to allow reliance on any foreign and especially US made components. The ship has sailed, China is going to develop the entire value chain domestically of all manufacturing of any product worth manufacturing, especially highly sophisticated ones.
Agreed, America has made a massive blunder. It started the tech war twenty years too late. And Trump should not start now. His advisors should had told him to wait until American companies had flooded China will so much chips that would have killed off any aspiring Chinese chips manufacturing companies. And in a few years time, Taiwan, Korean & US chips manufacturing would be many generations ahead and completely dominate the world. China would be left completely unprepared due to easy access of imported chips. But Trump miss the plot by starting the tech war now and hereby wake up China. Should have heeded Napoleon advice by letting China sleep.
 

Petrolicious88

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SMIC is now officially sanctioned.

Other major tech firms are on the list as well, and will most likely be sanctioned by January.
 

machupicu

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SMIC is now officially sanctioned. This is not good.
The more the merrier lol, but seriously China and Huawei will triple their efforts, in any case 5G is safe for Huawei, they just need to perhaps pause for a short period on high-end smartphones.. would you still buy a BYD, Mercedes etc if they go under the radar for a year? :)
 

Petrolicious88

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The more the merrier lol, but seriously China and Huawei will triple their efforts, in any case 5G is safe for Huawei, they just need to perhaps pause for a short period on high-end smartphones.. would you still buy a BYD, Mercedes etc if they go under the radar for a year? :)
Love the optimism. But China faces an incredible hard task to become fully self sufficient in cutting edge semiconductor. There is no sugar coating this. SMIC, Huawei sanction just the tip of the iceberg.
 
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