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Petrolicious88

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Actually most of the serious talent do stay in China and has been this way for nearly two decades. The outgoing students are really a small minority. I think possibly 5%-10% for serious academic careers overseas just based on ballpark estimates of how many go overseas for tertiary level education which would include starting an undergrad program. The only reason there are still so many Chinese going overseas for undergrad/masters programs overseas is the shortage of universities in China for the number of students. The best start and mostly stay in Chinese unis/research groups their entire academic careers.

For the seemingly large number of undergrad students (who are not established important figures compared to say a phd in some engineering field from MIT) is still a small proportion of the number of university students in China. Most of the foreign unis they will go to are ranked far higher than the available Chinese uni they have been able to get into. So all the best Chinese unis are filled first with the best and brightest then the second tier is where some student with the financial means may choose a higher ranking foreign uni if accepted and as you go down the pyramid of Chinese unis, the desire to study at a better one increases with the option limited only by finance and other personal decisions.

So most of the kids you see in second tier foreign unis would have had no hope of getting into a good Chinese uni. Many of the kids you see in first rate foreign unis could only get into second tier Chinese ones etc. This isn't true for everyone but the Chinese international students I've spoken to about this seem to all indicate this view. They get a much better degree and possibly a better more diverse education this way and if they're families are able to afford it, why not? It can be and sometimes is a good thing. Brain drain has slowed a lot in the last decade despite increase in students studying overseas for undergrad. Most return, even the really talented ones after a few years in industry/research.
Unlike the 1970s and 80s, a lot of students that go overseas are actually not top tier students. Many, not all, go overseas to escape the gaocao exams.

The real brain drain happens at the PHD and Postdoc levels. Need to keep those people.
 

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Unlike the 1970s and 80s, a lot of students that go overseas are actually not top tier students. Many, not all, go overseas to escape the gaocao exams.

The real brain drain happens at the PHD and Postdoc levels. Need to keep those people.


Chinese should be allowed to go realize their aspirations no matter where they end up. They represent the clout of the Chinese people.


At the PhD and Postdoc levels, a lot stay in the US to live an easy life. Those who are extremely talented lead departments and start companies in both US and China.
 

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Unlike the 1970s and 80s, a lot of students that go overseas are actually not top tier students. Many, not all, go overseas to escape the gaocao exams.

The real brain drain happens at the PHD and Postdoc levels. Need to keep those people.

Yep. Very rarely do top tier students go overseas for undergrad. Some go overseas for post grad when a top tier program is available overseas and everything else allows. These aren't always brain drain. Often times these days, these top tier post grads or researchers return to China after a few years/ a decade of valuable learning and experience. The few that don't return aren't much of a loss at all to be honest. It was always going to be a bonus. The only loss in that case is the individual themselves because they're usually HIGHLY productive assets.

Trump's admin has noticed this imbalance and moving towards banning China's students eventually. Most high tech fields ban foreigners anyway as China's own high tech fields also do at sensitive points like military application. It's the thousand talents program of the past era that's helped develop China immensely and the equivalent to "The Martians", Operation Paperclip, and the constant attraction of many of the world's best and brightest over the decades that's built up modern USA's tech dominance. Attracting and keeping talented people just boosts this for countries like China which now has the wealth, infrastructure, facilities, and organisational stability that can become a tech superpower eventually even if brain drain continues. It's domestic abilities are now more than enough. Any addition or returners are bonuses.
 

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My concern, 2 year chip stock may not last that long due to heavy demand. Hope both Huawei and SMIC are able to work things out especially the 7nm chips by year end or early 2021.

from cnTechPost

Huawei smartphone market share in China grows to record high despite overall market decline
2020-07-26 9:41:27 GMT+8 | cnTechPost
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One out of every two phones being sold in China right now is a Huawei.
In the second quarter of this year, Huawei's phone market share in China reached 46%, the highest ever, according to a report by market research firm Counterpoint.

That's more than Vivo (16 percent), OPPO (15 percent), and Xiaomi (9 percent) combined.

Huawei smartphone market share in China grows to record high despite overall market decline-cnTechPost

In the 5G smartphone market, Huawei's market share is even higher, at more than 60 percent.
Despite the overall market slowdown, Huawei still achieved 14% year-on-year growth, Counterpoint said.


China has emerged as Huawei's most important market after it lost the ability to use GMS in overseas markets in its latest smartphones, Counterpoint said.
Huawei's 5G portfolio is growing rapidly, thanks to the high-end Mate 30 and P40 series and the mid-range Nova 7 series.

China's 5G smartphone market is already very consolidated, with Huawei, OPPO, Vivo, and Xiaomi capturing 96% of the market.
Huawei leads in 5G smartphone sales, followed by Vivo, OPPO, and Xiaomi.


In the second quarter, 33 percent of smartphones sold in China were 5G-enabled, up from 16 percent in the first quarter.

That percentage was even higher in June when more than 40 percent of the smartphones sold were 5G-enabled.
Apple was the fastest-growing smartphone brand in China in the second quarter, as the popularity of the iPhone 11 series continued to grow and the number of smartphones sold increased.

Apple's sales in China were up 32% year-over-year in the quarter due to the continued popularity of the iPhone 11 series and price cuts.
Huawei smartphone market share in China grows to record high despite overall market decline-cnTechPost


The iPhone SE 2020 also quickly moved into the top three best-selling iPhones of the second quarter of 2020.
All other phone brands except Apple and Huawei saw declines during the quarter.


Counterpoint said that despite the Covide-19 epidemic receding, consumer confidence remains low and both handset makers and carriers are pushing 5G smartphones by lowering the price of 5G devices and 5G package prices.

This has increased the share of 5G handset sales, with a third of total smartphone sales in China this quarter being 5G devices, the highest in the world. But that still didn't offset the decline in the overall market, Counterpoint said.
 

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China now has over 30% of the world's mobile internet users
2020-07-26 9:53:49 GMT+8 | cnTechPost
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China now has over 30% of the world's mobile internet users-cnTechPost

By the end of 2019, China had 1.319 billion mobile Internet users, accounting for 32.17% of the world's total, a new report shows.

At the 19th China Internet Conference held online this week, He Guili, deputy-secretary general at the Internet Society of China, released the China Internet Development Report 2020.

According to the report, the total number of 4G base stations reached 5.44 million by the end of 2019, accounting for more than half of the world's total 4G base stations.
In 2019, China's mobile Internet traffic consumption reached 122 billion GB, up 71.6% year-on-year.
The scale of China's e-commerce transactions reached 34.81 trillion yuan, which has taken the first place in the global e-commerce market for many years in a row. The volume of online payment transactions reached 249.88 trillion yuan.


The report also said that the scale of value-added of China's digital economy reached 35.8 trillion yuan, ranking second in the world.
 

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I dont want to dwell on the supposed India technical prowess, but Software is the least of China problem, below is an article
from cnTechPost regarding China OS


China-made UOS adds support for Baidu's AI deep learning platform
2020-07-26 17:06:48 GMT+8 | cnTechPost
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China-made UOS adds support for Baidu's AI deep learning platform-cnTechPost

On the China-made Unity Operating System (UOS), you can now start using deep learning software as well.

UOS developer Union Tech has announced that UOS for server V20 and Baidu's PaddlePaddle deep learning platform completed compatibility work on Kunpeng and Phytium CPU platforms.

This makes PaddlePaddle the first AI deep learning platform to support the UOS, allowing developers to conduct artificial intelligence and deep learning research on the operating system.

Test results show that PaddlePaddle is stable and fully functional on the UOS.


Based on Baidu's years of deep learning technology research and business applications, PaddlePaddle is China's open source, full-featured deep learning platform.
It integrates deep learning core training and inference framework, basic model library, end-to-end development kit and a wealth of tool components into one.

UOS for server V20 is a general operating system designed and developed by Union Tech to meet the needs of enterprise applications and government and military, and supports Loongson, Phytium, Sunway, Zhaoxin, Kunpeng, Hygon, and general X86 platforms.
China-made UOS adds support for Baidu's AI deep learning platform-cnTechPost



It meets the requirements of enterprise users for high performance and high stability of servers and is suitable for critical areas such as telecommunications, finance, and government.


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And the comparison between different OS

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How does China-made UOS compare to Windows?
2020-05-19 19:13:09 GMT+8 | cnTechPost
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How does China-made UOS compare to Windows?-cnTechPost

This report from the Xingye Securities computer team aims to compare and analyze the alternative relationship and similarities between Unity Operating System (UOS) + WPS and Windows + MS Office by combing through the evolution of Windows, macOS, and ChromeOS operating systems, as well as MS Office and WPS.

Due to the differences in time, software, and hard product performance and competitive landscape, it is difficult to strictly compare UOS+WPS in a certain historical era.

But from the point of view of the development of a single product, WPS has a high probability of short-term replacement of MS Office in the domestic market, lightweight and subscription model is the product of the cloud computing era, but also to achieve beyond the conditions.
Rather than comparing UOS at this stage to the early days of Windows, which were more like ChromeOS or MacOS, the UOS + Huawei Kunpeng model is more like 10 years of ChromeOS, going from 0 to 1 and then gradually replacing parts of the market.
Currently, Chrome OS has a 5% market share across the U.S. and is rapidly cutting into the market from education.


Considering the orderly replacement of the Chinese government market and Huawei's help to open up the consumer market, UOS is expected to achieve a bend in the domestic overtaking, on the one hand, to make up for the lack of basic software systems, on the other hand, innovative to open up market segments.
The main contents of this paper are as follows.

1. Market pattern and development trends of operating systems
2. Microsoft Windows: The King of the World


3. Apple OS X: the hard-charging Genesis

4. Google ChromeOS: The breakout of the rising star
5. UOS: the rise of China-made OS

1. Market pattern and development trends of operating systems
The global desktop operating system market, Windows has long dominated.
As of 2019, Windows had a global market share of 77.81%, far higher than other operating systems.

In second place is Apple's OS X with a market share of 14.23%.
Linux and Chrome OS ranked third and fourth, respectively, with 1.68% and 1.21% of the market.


While the Windows advantage is clear, it's not hard to see that the competitive landscape of the operating system market is changing: over the past decade, Windows has seen its market share drop from 94.73% in 2009 to 77.81% in 2019, a 17.86% drop in market share.

As of February 2020, Windows' market share is still on a downward trend.
Its main competitor, Apple OS X, has been expanding its market size year after year, with a market share of 17.33%, squeezing out a portion of the Windows market.
How does China-made UOS compare to Windows?-cnTechPost



(Global Desktop Operating System Market Changes, 2009-2019)

How does China-made UOS compare to Windows?-cnTechPost


(February 2020 global desktop operating system distribution)
The U.S. market segment has changed even more dramatically, with Windows shrinking in size and OS X continuing to expand, while other operating systems such as Linux and Chrome OS are gaining ground.
Over the past decade, Windows' PC market share in the US has shrunk from 88.76% in 2009 to 69.42% in 2019, a 19.34% shrinkage in market size.
And with a 10.11% increase in market share over the decade, OS X is steadily becoming more competitive in the US market.

As of February 2020, Windows' market share in the U.S. continued to decline by 4.26 percent, with OS X's market share rising to 25.38 percent and other operating systems taking the remaining 9.46 percent share.
Among them, Chrome OS, an open source operating system based on Linux, has launched into the education field, aiming to build a Web-based cloud operating system.
With 5G landing, Chrome OS will take over more markets in the future and Windows is facing a new round of challenges.
How does China-made UOS compare to Windows?-cnTechPost
 

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(Global Desktop Operating System Market Changes, 2009-2019)

How does China-made UOS compare to Windows?-cnTechPost


(February 2020 global desktop operating system distribution)
The U.S. market segment has changed even more dramatically, with Windows shrinking in size and OS X continuing to expand, while other operating systems such as Linux and Chrome OS are gaining ground.
Over the past decade, Windows' PC market share in the US has shrunk from 88.76% in 2009 to 69.42% in 2019, a 19.34% shrinkage in market size.
And with a 10.11% increase in market share over the decade, OS X is steadily becoming more competitive in the US market.

As of February 2020, Windows' market share in the U.S. continued to decline by 4.26 percent, with OS X's market share rising to 25.38 percent and other operating systems taking the remaining 9.46 percent share.
Among them, Chrome OS, an open source operating system based on Linux, has launched into the education field, aiming to build a Web-based cloud operating system.
With 5G landing, Chrome OS will take over more markets in the future and Windows is facing a new round of challenges.
How does China-made UOS compare to Windows?-cnTechPost

(Changes in the U.S. Desktop Operating System Market, 2009-2019)

How does China-made UOS compare to Windows?-cnTechPost

(US desktop operating system market, February 2020)
In the Chinese market, Windows is the absolute leader, with the market share of Windows dropping 11.78% from 2009-2019.
As of 2019, Windows holds 87.86% of the market share, with OS X in second place holding only 7.3%.
By February 2020, Windows' market share in China had declined slightly, with OS X rising to 8.28% and Linux only 0.93%.

Other desktop operating systems, with a 3.36% share, have high growth potential.
How does China-made UOS compare to Windows?-cnTechPost

(Changes in China Desktop Operating System Market, 2009-2019)
How does China-made UOS compare to Windows?-cnTechPost

(Chinese desktop operating system market, February 2020)

2. Microsoft Windows: The King of the World
Based on functional evolution, operating systems can be divided into early CP/M, DOS single-user single-task, Windows single-user multitask, and Unix/BSD/Linux multi-user multitask.
Microsoft's Windows family of desktop operating systems are representative of single-user, multi-tasking operating systems.
Since the release of MS-DOS by Microsoft, its operating system has quickly captured most of the global desktop market.
Started with MS-DOS and iterated for forty years.

From the first operating system, MS-DOS, to the current Windows 10, Microsoft has been working on the operating system for nearly 40 years.
In 1981, the first 16-bit MS-DOS system (Microsoft Disk Operating System) was released and became the most basic configuration of PC and compatible machines at that time. MS-DOS, on the other hand, is the most commonly used operating system for personal computers.
In 1985, Microsoft released Windows 1.0, which was Microsoft's first attempt at a graphical user interface for a PC operating platform, and in the decade or so that followed, Windows continued to upgrade and grow in market size.
In 1995, Windows 95 was introduced, marking the beginning of the full graphical interface era for personal computer operating systems, and five years later Windows XP began to rule the desktop operating system market for 11 years.
In 2009, Microsoft introduced Windows 7, which became the second classic operating system besides Windows XP.
Windows 10 came out in 2015 with the addition of Cortana Voice Search, a new Action Center, a new Edge browser, and a virtual desktop, making it the most configured desktop operating system ever in a personal PC.
Platformization, scale, standardization effect accumulation, helping Windows to rule the desktop operating system.
Microsoft started out as a partnership for IBM and Intel, and helped IBM build its DOS business empire, and later partnered with hardware vendor Intel to form the Wintel Alliance.
The operating system as a carrier to undertake hardware and application software, with typical platform and scale effect, since then Windows operating system and Intel processor has become the main driving force of personal PC, forming a desktop operating system monopoly position.
Correspondingly, it is the standardization brought about by the reverse of the scale effect, the technical specifications developed by the Wintel Alliance has become the de facto standard of the PC industry, making the monopoly of Windows in the desktop operating system position is difficult to shake.
Software and hardware together to build Windows eco-barrier.
In terms of software, Windows has become the mainstream and standard for PC machines by cultivating user habits and gaining user stickiness through Office and IE browser applications.
They then formed strong software barriers by enriching the software ecology, from Office base software to Azure's comprehensive cloud computing services.
Microsoft continues to solidify its monopoly in the hardware space by moving from the traditional PC to the more intelligent Surface tablet, IoT, Xbox and other hardware products.
At the same time, starting from the release of Windows 10, Microsoft has gradually moved to Windows 10 systems in desktop PCs, mobile platforms, game consoles and even smart wearables, creating an ecosystem with Windows 10 at its core.
The core product, MS Office, is one of Microsoft's core businesses, and its traditional sales model is mainly from the installed bring your own, retail, and enterprise customers.
Under the "operating system + software adaptation" model, Office has quickly cultivated a large number of loyal users, and since its birth has been on the road to office software soaring.
In 2011, Microsoft launched MS Office 365, a subscription service based on a cloud platform.
The business integrated Office software One Drive storage capabilities to meet the needs of co-working, and continued to grow in user numbers and revenue, taking the first step towards Office cloudization.
In 2014, based on the strategy of "mobile-first, cloud-first", Office business completed the vertical transformation from stand-alone office, user interconnection, to cloud information sharing.
It has also completed the horizontal layout from personal hardware terminal, operating system development and software design such as office software, to big data cloud platform storage, driving the overall migration of traditional Office users to the Office 365 platform, the total number of subscribers to Office 365 has grown year by year, to more than 34.8 million in 2019.
 

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3. Apple OS X: The Catcher
OS X Product Mapping Evolutionary Path.
OS X, the operating system running on Apple's Macintosh family of computers, was the first GUI operating system to be successful in the commercial space and has long been used by the industry to compare itself to Microsoft's Windows.
In terms of the underlying architecture, Apple OS X is a continuation of Unix's design thinking and research, directly inheriting many of BSD's design concepts.
The evolution of OS X can be divided into three phases: System to OS X 8 and the successor OS X GUI, System is the older and no longer supported version of the classic Mac OS, known as the "System x.xx" series.
The OS X 8 series started a period of rapid growth for Apple's desktop operating system, after which OS X Apple entered the post-OS era.
In 1984, Apple released the first Mac personal computer along with the first-generation operating system, System 1.0, which first used a graphical interface and user interaction design.
System upgrades didn't change much for the next seven years until the seventh generation system was introduced in 1991, with System 7.0 being the first Apple system to support a color display.
In 1997, OS X 8.0 was released and the OS X name was officially adopted, bringing users the Multi-thread Finder, a 3D Platinum interface, and a new computer help system.
In 1998, Apple CEO Steve Jobs announced the OS route for OS X and decided to release system updates every six months, with the OS X 9 series being the last OS X series in this system route.
In 2001, the fifth year of his return to Apple, Jobs released OS X 10.0, a system based on the Darwin system, which inherited the Next Step technology from NeXT, the company Jobs founded when he left Apple, opening a new chapter in Apple's operating system.
Over the next 20 years, Apple upgraded from the OS X 10.0 Cheetah system in 2001 to the latest OS X 10.15 Catalina system in 2019, with dramatic changes in system processors, interfaces and features, and increasing market share.
Together, the desktop and mobile ends make up Apple's mobile product atlas.
The Mac, iPhone, iPad, iWatch, and iPod families and services make up Apple's mobile ecosystem.
The Mac is based on the OS X desktop operating system, while the iPhone, iPad, iWatch, and iPod are based on the iOS mobile operating system.
iOS is a derivative of OS X on the mobile platform, bringing the idea of a desktop system to mobile phones.
With the introduction of the iTunes music platform software in 2003, Apple rapidly expanded the market for iPod hardware products with the "iPod+iTunes" model, integrating the player, copyright protection technology, and the iTunes Music Store, opening Apple's path from electronics manufacturer to the end-user content provider.
In 2007, Apple launched the App Store online application store after the release of the iPhone, forming a new "iPhone + App Store" combination.
Both iTunes and the App Store are bundled under Apple's iTunes sync management software, and Apple is leading the wave of the mobile phone revolution.
In 2009, Apple launched the iCloud cloud service, which provides a private cloud space for Apple users, supporting the synchronization and pushing of data between user devices over the air, closely integrating Apple's hardware and software products.
In 2010, Apple launched the iPad tablet, which became the "Terminal App Store" portfolio.
In 2014, Apple launched the iWatch to enter the smartwatch space, and Apple's mobile product mapping is now complete.
Closed hardware + semi-open software to create an integrated ecosystem of Apple hardware and software.
Apple integrates the strengths of software, hardware, and operating system to create a stably integrated ecosystem of hardware and software.
To reduce system burden and improve security, Apple has adopted a closed strategic architecture for its operating system, allowing developers to access only those features that Apple considers "secure" or "recommended.
Apple is completely closed at the hardware level and has absolute control over the hardware vendors using its operating system.
Apple is semi-open at the software level, strictly vetting all software developers, through closed hardware + OS, control of sales channels, so that many applications will have to be downloaded or in-app payment when they are added to the App Store.
This establishes a complete payment model for purchases, ensures the high quality of free or paid software in the App Store, and fosters good user word of mouth and payment habits.
4. Google ChromeOS: a rising star
From a single form to multiple forms, the Chrome industry chain continues to improve.
In 2010, Google introduced Chrome OS, Google's PC operating system for netbooks, a lightweight, open-source operating system running on the Linux kernel with the Chrome browser at its core.
Chrome was released in 2008, and Google took the exact opposite of Microsoft's open approach, open-sourcing the Chrome project from the start, and within nine months of its release it attracted over 30 million users to browse the web using Chrome, and the Chrome OS system was born.
Continuing Chrome's fast, simple, and secure nature, Chrome OS emphasizes cloud computing capabilities, storing users' applications, files, and settings on a cloud server, reducing the computing and storage burden on the laptop itself, and aiming to create the fastest and leanest operating system.
In 2011, Google launched Chromebook, a laptop based on Chrome OS, as the "future of lightweight portable computing", and Chrome OS went from a single form to multiple forms.
In 2016, Android programs began to merge into Chromebooks and other Chrome OS hardware, a landmark optimization for Chrome OS.
In 2018, Chrome OS introduces the ability to run Linux apps, the Chrome ecosystem gets better
(c) Creating an educational ecosystem that cuts into the mainstream market.
According to Futuresource, Chromebooks have maintained their dominant position and market share in the K12 education market year on year, growing their global share in this market to 35% in 2018; with the US market being the largest Chromebook market in the world.
Popular with educators for Chrome OS' lightweight and fast features and Chromebooks' price advantage, teachers can lock student Chromebooks with remote control, making instructional management easy.
The web-based application design also saves a lot of time waiting for the installed software to load and open, while Google also launched Google Classroom classroom management application, Google Plus video group chat, and Google Docs and other supporting software services to meet daily teaching needs.
In addition, Chromebooks are priced in the $200-$400 range, and Google doesn't directly profit from Chromebook hardware sales, instead of charging schools a $30 per device registration fee, a significant price advantage.
Google's Chromebooks with Chrome OS quickly took over the education market, laying the foundation for the mainstream market to enter.
How does China-made UOS compare to Windows?-cnTechPost

(ChromeOS)
License Android for free and launch the OS+App channel. In order to make Chrome OS the right operating system for everyone.
Google started the initial integration of Chrome OS and Android in 2018 by opening up its hardware and software completely, providing access to Android folders for Linux apps, and Chrome OS devices can run Chrome apps, Android apps from the Google Play store and Linux apps.
According to Google's internal data, within a year of licensing Android, as of March 2019, the number of time users spent using Android apps in Chrome OS increased fourfold year-over-year, resulting in significant results in building a refined Chrome OS experience for Android apps.
In May 2019, based on Android Runtime for Chrome (the way Android apps run), Google began developing a new generation of ARCs - "ARC++" - aimed at deeper integration of Android Runtime with Chrome OS, aiming to further break into the ecosystem of Chrome OS and Android.
 
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