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Probably, since TSMC provides scales of economies that no other pure foundry can match.
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Hi Skywatcher
Is 5nm economically viable, with the cost and coming economic recession/depression, the consumer may hold any new purchase of high end cellphone. It may help Huawei for the time being while waiting for SMIC 7nm
form cnTechPost:
Qualcomm Snapdragon 875 chipset could cost as much as $220
2020-06-27 20:04:56 GMT+8 | cnTechPost
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With the 5nm process and the use of 5G integrated baseband, the Qualcomm Snapdragon 875 chipset may have to be priced even higher.
This year's Qualcomm Snapdragon 865 has become the mainstream choice for Android's flagship 5G phones, and there will be a Snapdragon 865 Plus in the second half of the year, and then the Snapdragon 875 is expected to be the core of the 2021 5G flagship phones.
But there is a problem, the price of the Snapdragon 875 is feared to rise again, with the chipset rumored to cost as much as $220.
According to the famous leaker @i冰宇宙, the Snapdragon 875 chipset costs up to $220, which is almost a third of the price of a China-made 5G phone.
Is 5nm economically viable, with the cost and coming economic recession/depression, the consumer may hold any new purchase of high end cellphone. It may help Huawei for the time being while waiting for SMIC 7nm
form cnTechPost:
Qualcomm Snapdragon 875 chipset could cost as much as $220
2020-06-27 20:04:56 GMT+8 | cnTechPost
0
With the 5nm process and the use of 5G integrated baseband, the Qualcomm Snapdragon 875 chipset may have to be priced even higher.
This year's Qualcomm Snapdragon 865 has become the mainstream choice for Android's flagship 5G phones, and there will be a Snapdragon 865 Plus in the second half of the year, and then the Snapdragon 875 is expected to be the core of the 2021 5G flagship phones.
But there is a problem, the price of the Snapdragon 875 is feared to rise again, with the chipset rumored to cost as much as $220.
According to the famous leaker @i冰宇宙, the Snapdragon 875 chipset costs up to $220, which is almost a third of the price of a China-made 5G phone.
Hi Skywatcher
Yup your correct as always.
from cnTechPost
OPPO reportedly poaches MediaTek exec to head its chip division
2020-06-28 20:47:37 GMT+8 | cnTechPost
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OPPO launches "Mariana Plan" to develop its own mobile phone chips, tentatively named OPPO M1.
The smartphone maker not only hired Jeffery Ju, MediaTek's former chief operating officer as a consultant, but also rumored that TL Lee, general manager of MediaTek's wireless business unit, has left to join OPPO to take charge of the mobile phone chip division.
TL Lee was willing to leave at the beginning of the year, MediaTek tried its best to retain him.
MediaTek developed the 5G chip "Dimensity" in which TL Lee is a key figure. TL Lee was the keynote speaker for the release of 5G chips, including the Dimensity 1000 and Dimensity 800.
However, to May this year MediaTek released a new 5G chip Dimensity 820 online, the keynote speaker is the wireless communications business unit associate director Lee Yan series.
Branded mobile phone manufacturers want to design their own chip to master the core strength, in recent years there have been news of poaching Taiwan talent.
Part of MediaTek and the mainland UNISOC technical talent, was poached by OPPO to Shanghai's mobile phone chip development team.
I am sure they would, also in the near future, I wouldn’t be surprise if there are private companies in China trying to get in on this game too, the way things are going there is a lot of potential profit to be had and there might be some rich entrepreneurs who might pop out of nowhere to capitalise on this.
Hi Mt1701d
good day,
AndrewS had already mentioned the viability of 5nm, the problem is TSMC and SAMSUNG are the only semiconductor fab at the moment capable of producing it at scale, with ASML embargo of EUV. SMIC and SMEE need to coordinate asap the latter EUV project, as SKYWATCHER said 2 years is an eternity in chip business.
like you Im also excited about China chances in semiconductor, the news this week about HUAWEI, SMIC & SMEE cooperation in 7nm is a morale booster for me and hopefully for all Chinese. We have a chance , we can overcome , we can win.
Hi there,
SMIC and SMEE have their work cut out for them and I think it would be a long and hard fight ahead. I am no expert on DUV or EUV, so I am not going to embarrass myself with an analysis on this part.
However, there are other method of semiconductor production being researched right now and from what I have read carbon nanotubes and carbon based semiconductor seems to have some promise and progress recently, with carbon nanotubes themselves also having other applications beyond just semiconductor related product, I believe there is probably a chance that this is the area where more speedy progress could be made. There is also a lower level of entry, as it were, and if semiconductor side doesn’t work out re-tasking the research into other applications with the experience gained in semiconductor research could have potential unexpected benefits as well.
Tho admittedly it’s a little fanboy-ish but I believe this could be a direction, with actual potential, to break the current ‘monopoly’ on semiconductor production. Just my 2 cents.
hi Mt1701d
Yup we share the same interest, luckily here in SDF, we had members with knowledge and expertise to share with us. Hopefully the MOD will open the semiconductor thread and other knowledgeable people to join the discussion.
Well look back and see how long Intel can get away with their 14nm+++++++ bullshit until get kick in ass by AMD. I can say tolerance level of the world is actually pretty high. The world is big but people can actually get in hand of most advance technology is small or until Chinese competitors join in. Just like not because Xiaomi then maybe rest of world just still use some 4 or 5 inch phone with horrible hardware from Samsung or HTC. Btw when the West or US say the world they actually just say about themselves, other part of Earth is irrelevant. So i say fck the world, keep hard working and the sweetest fruits will reward who worthy.