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Chish

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My personal experience with Chinese is that they usually think for themselves first and careless for fellow Chinese. I saw they don't queue, take more then they needed, reluctant to help, don't volunteer. Except with rare occasions. When they group think together miracle happens and they achieve greatness.
 

ougoah

Major
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Chinese are actually the least hive minded culture there is. We have to force it with authoritarianism just to get everyone on the same page. On some qualities where Chinese people do conform, I can list general topics like education, educational preferences and beliefs, and career choices. That's literally it for me. When it comes to politics it varies greatly. Even when it comes to money spending patterns and resource allocation, it varies greatly between individuals. Behavioural patterns are too unpredictable so politics are almost forced with an iron fist.

An genuinely hive minded culture that developed from whatever set of circumstances (may be out of social forces as opposed to forced political ones) is Japan. They also have are far more homogenous society than China and have FAR fewer ethnicities and social division than China.

One cognitive cause I suspect for believing Chinese are conformists is because of the association with Japan or other Asian cultures that are actually hive minded and conformist. Combine that with how our looks converge more than caucasian physiology where there are a range of hair colour, skin tone, and eye colours. This makes it easier to fool the non-observant mind into believing that yes Chinese culture is wholly conformist. Then you get the racists who call all Asians hive minded but they've never experienced the great varieties in Asian arts, history, or even set foot into an Asian convenience store in China, Japan, or Taiwan just to look at the choices in beverages and flavours alone.

China was united out of many different nations and groups/tribes, with their own language variations and sub-cultures. It's hard to imagine such a non-homogenous nation actually be so involved in a group think that dominates the narrative. The CCP's direction for PRC may provide an illusion of such a thing, especially when dissenting opinions and groups are generally not given media platforms to speak on.
 

Tam

Colonel
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Hmmm... Not sure where you get the idea of the Chinese doing “group thinking”. The most complaints that I’ve heard about the Chinese is that they always think for themselves and cannot unite. No matter how urgent the situation, you always get people who will put themselves ahead of the group. People have contrasted the Chinese with the Japanese who have been well known to put the group ahead of themselves.

In fact, many have used this to attempt to explain why the Chinese soccer team, or any other team sports (except women volleyball), can never win anything. This is the first time that I’ve heard people describing the Chinese doing group think...

I am referring to the Chinese selfishness/individualism being altered by social media into group think, which is the same thing happening to American selfishness and individualism being altered by social media into group think. Social Media has a way of replacing your thought process, meaning you alter your thought process and behavior to be part with the crowd, to get the most likes and followers, to choose the most popular path rather than being critical and focusing on the truth.
 

AssassinsMace

Brigadier
I am referring to the Chinese selfishness/individualism being altered by social media into group think, which is the same thing happening to American selfishness and individualism being altered by social media into group think. Social Media has a way of replacing your thought process, meaning you alter your thought process and behavior to be part with the crowd, to get the most likes and followers, to choose the most popular path rather than being critical and focusing on the truth.

Well that in a nutshell is what's being described as the evils of social media in the US.
 

vesicles

Colonel
I am referring to the Chinese selfishness/individualism being altered by social media into group think, which is the same thing happening to American selfishness and individualism being altered by social media into group think. Social Media has a way of replacing your thought process, meaning you alter your thought process and behavior to be part with the crowd, to get the most likes and followers, to choose the most popular path rather than being critical and focusing on the truth.

Well, that’s not a unique Chinese problem, but a problem of the entire world, the entire cyber world.
 

Gatekeeper

Colonel
Registered Member
My personal experience with Chinese is that they usually think for themselves first and careless for fellow Chinese. I saw they don't queue, take more then they needed, reluctant to help, don't volunteer. Except with rare occasions. When they group think together miracle happens and they achieve greatness.

WOW! Not sure where you live to get that sort of negative impression of Chinese. Where I come from, our Chinese people are always helping each other, sharing of resources, and caring for each other.

For example, when my parents had a take-away, or take-outs in USA. When they run out of resources like veg, or something. They would get on the phone to the nearest take away and "borrow" it from them. (Their competitor). It is recipicle of course. But I just can't imagine Tesco doing that with Sainsbury's.

Also, we run our Sunday school for the local Chinese children and elderly to play mahjon. We all do this by given up our own time and money. So where is the selfishness that you see.

So I say to you my friend, that your own experience clouded your assessment of Chinese in a negative way. We are no more, no less selfish than every other race. And your statement may typified what, and how Chinese are being viewed. I know is generalisation, but then so was your statement!
 

Quickie

Major
The response from the video commenters (definitely not Chinese by the look of the name of the handles) is what I would call groupthink. Their mindset has been so preconditioned to a certain negative precept about China through constant propaganda that they would just believe a random masked guy speaking in a hushed voice about how much worse the spread of the coronavirus is in China. China has no gain in hiding the facts of a natural crisis that can't be blamed on anyone.

 

AssassinsMace

Brigadier
The response from the video commenters (definitely not Chinese by the look of the name of the handles) is what I would call groupthink. Their mindset has been so preconditioned to a certain negative precept about China through constant propaganda that they would just believe a random masked guy speaking in a hushed voice about how much worse the spread of the coronavirus is in China. China has no gain in hiding the facts of a natural crisis that can't be blamed on anyone.



Yes it's like those notes found in products Made in China pleading to the West for help. The latest one came from a supposed Uighur. Are there any factories in Xinjiang that make products exported overseas? Since Xinjiang is virtually landlocked, hardly if any.

The usual suspects... Falun Gong, Taiwanese, and now Hong Kongers.
 

adiru

Junior Member
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Yes it's like those notes found in products Made in China pleading to the West for help. The latest one came from a supposed Uighur. Are there any factories in Xinjiang that make products exported overseas? Since Xinjiang is virtually landlocked, hardly if any.

The usual suspects... Falun Gong, Taiwanese, and now Hong Kongers.

Add deepfake AI bots to that too... nowadays lots of thr comments are machine learning bots, more scalable and pervasive that way
 

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