New Type98/99 MBT thread

[AssassinsMace]

I read somewhere, it could've been an article posted here, that the T-99 is on its third upgrade. So you may be seeing the variation of upgrades. Remember the T-98/99 has the self-defence laser module while the T-96 does not.

 

[crobato]

It's very likely that the T-98 use some components originally designed for earlier tanks. But at what point do you stop claiming that the whole tank is "based on" some other tank, and start referring to it as a "new" tank?

What you can be sure of is that the T-98/99 does not use any component from T-72s, given that China does not manufacture any T-72 at all. At best, some T-80/85/88 series components are used, and neither does the T-8X series had any descent from any other Russian tank except for the T-54.

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Mod edit: If you want discuss about chinese aircrafts and their orgins, do it in the proper forum!!

 

[Gollevainen]

This is unbelivable!!! I said month ago that NO AIRCRAFT TALKING IN THIS THREAD!!!!....and people listened...now someone digs this thread up and start doing it again...

Man, it makes me feel that many of you don't give a shit about moderators and their guidance...it seems that only thing that turns your head around is banning. But we all don't want to end up that situation? Right?

 

[Aluka]

What you can be sure of is that the T-98/99 does not use any component from T-72s, given that China does not manufacture any T-72 at all. At best, some T-80/85/88 series components are used, and neither does the T-8X series had any descent from any other Russian tank except for the T-54.

Whoever writes something like this just lies to himself. Chinese specialists did study some T-72M and T-80 tanks, that is a fact, and there was already a clue on the main gun (see some threads below). Apart of this you may notice that 99's chassis and suspention are 100% copy of T-72M. Front hull part was taken as well (however it was modified).

Anyway. The tank on pictures is definitely type99, but the new one seems to have smaller turret from type90-II.

 

[Su-34]

Will China make any tank that is better than the Type99 in the future? China should make a new tank with a low turret but good armor like the Merkava 4 to improve combat survivability. In other words, in the future, China should develop a tank that is similar to Merkava 4, but lighter. Chinese tank similar to M4 design should weigh about 55 tons instead of M4's 65 tons, right?

 

[Red not Dead]

Will China make any tank that is better than the Type99 in the future? China should make a new tank with a low turret but good armor like the Merkava 4 to improve combat survivability. In other words, in the future, China should develop a tank that is similar to Merkava 4, but lighter. Chinese tank similar to M4 design should weigh about 55 tons instead of M4's 65 tons, right?

Hum given the peculiarities of the Chinese army...I bet on a limit 50 ton + autolader tank. Leclerc is the best alternative to chinese needs. Good protection, without overweight (saved for future modular retrofitting), with the russian suite of war assets.

The combat survivability of the MK4 comes at the price of the mobility. A shot will simply knock down the MK4 while exposing the large crew to ennemy fire. China doesn't need that. China needs more At assets (ammo+Gun) and a better and larger fast mover park.

 

[Superior China]

How much armor does it have? In "mm" this time please!

 

[darth sidious]

How much armor does it have? In "mm" this time please!

:nono: dont even think about it this time :nono:
you screw up two threads already

minium of about 700mm vs sabot

about100mm vs heat

 

[MIGleader]

Will China make any tank that is better than the Type99 in the future? China should make a new tank with a low turret but good armor like the Merkava 4 to improve combat survivability. In other words, in the future, China should develop a tank that is similar to Merkava 4, but lighter. Chinese tank similar to M4 design should weigh about 55 tons instead of M4's 65 tons, right?

given the path land warefare is taking now, the type 99 should be chinas LAST main battle tank. upgrades can continue, for im certian chiense engineers are developing new comnposit armors as we speak. but as ive asserted many times before, the tank is not the future.

some upgrades:
a complete battle mangement system
some blow out panels and armored compartments for crew safety
improvements to the jd-3
better armor is fairly obvious

btw, how many type 99s does china have now? i heard 40 at last count, but it should have grown since

 

[Kampfwagen]

Some improved armor would be excelent, seeing as how these are probably the most expensive tank in the PLA.

And from a post waaaayyyyy back when, yeah I agree that the U.S trumps up the abrams considerably, but this is expected of any tank or weapon for that matter proposed by any government.

And personaly, I find it a bit sad that tanks have to go. It's nice that any weapon of war is no longer used, but there is a certian nostalgia to using tanks. The sights of them rocking as their cannons are fired, watching as other tanks explode in a collum of fire. The sound of the treads squeaking and the engine grumbling as it crosses through an area totaly unobstructed by natural or artifical barriers...

Reminds me of the old battleships and their eventual replacement by carriers.

But so far, yeah. This tank looks like it could certantly tangle with almost any other tank the western world can throw at it. :china: I hate hearing 'abrams can do this and T-96/8/9 cant and how China is a bunch of communist bla-de-bla-de-bla'. The worst thing you can do is underestimate your enemy, and these tanks sure do look like they will B!tchslap westerners, god forbid we ever enter armed conflict. Though from what Dongfeng posted, rather uncomftorable to get into and might be especialy problematic if they get into the tank in an emergency.

By the way, sorry to leap off topic like that. But I just had to get in my two cents.