New Type98/99 MBT thread


Red Guard

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i believe it's the 3rd armoured division in the district. more and more 99s will be issued to the northen district while the south issued with 96. about the M1, if a T-72 could picked it out during golf war, we sure could make it into a pile of buring iron, just in what cost, today's tank warfare is stupid to compare 2 lone tanks.
 

ArjunMk1

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The turret looks great, its larger and may be more spacious than the semi spherical T72 turrets . It directly shows western influence .
The chassis looks to be an identical to that of T72 .


Is the tank is larger than T72 ? Does it carriers greater no. of shells ?? Is the laser dazzler currently deployed with this tank ???
 

Aluka

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O_O You sound like you see this tank for the first time. Try reading articles, this tank is known for already 6 years ;)

As for the first 2 pictures - do you have any coments? The difference is not only in ERA design, did you notice different commander's hatch? It's something M1A2-looking. And the way commander's sight fixed differs too. Heck, the whole turret seems to be new - it doesn't have this cast roof part, ZTZ-98 had.
 

Vytautas

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Interesting.There really is no elevation on the top of the turret.I wonder which model this is.Also there is almost twice as much ERA on the front of the turret in the second picture.As far as im aware the first picture is ztz99 and the second one is 98g or other.Im thinking that the second one is 98g because its the same tank no. 301 that is on the picture at sinodefence.Take a look
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MIGleader

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Aluka said:
General tank design is very similar to T-72, so there should be differenf way out. The only problem is that it wouldn't be easy - you'll find yourself clamped between autoloader's carousel, your seat, and gun's breech. So, if you need to get out fast - you're in trouble.

In fact we can't know this for sure, since we are not aware neither of ZTZ-99 armor quality, nor of it's firepower (though this doesn't matter much - all modern guns have pretty similar performance). As for muzzle velocity - it is not the only factor that defines shell's effectiveness. The good example is american M829E3 - it's velocity is 1555m/s, but still it pierces 800mm at 2000m. But enough of this.

What i am really interested in is WD396 engine. Is there any confirmed info about it? Pictures? What is the engine's structure? Some sources say it's a copy of MTU881, is this true?
ok aluka. we got the last type 99 thread closed because u kept argueing it was t-72 copy. so lets avoid the t-72 entirely. the mtu881 ebngine is a really powerfu and reliable engine, quality ukrainian engineering. i wouldnt be surprised if it the wd396 was based off it, but copied?
no.

i though the type 98g was the type 99...
 

ger_mark

Junior Member
MIGleader said:
ok aluka. we got the last type 99 thread closed because u kept argueing it was t-72 copy. so lets avoid the t-72 entirely. the mtu881 ebngine is a really powerfu and reliable engine, quality ukrainian engineering. i wouldnt be surprised if it the wd396 was based off it, but copied?
no.

i though the type 98g was the type 99...

mtu is german, not ukrainian ;)
 

MIGleader

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ger_mark said:
mtu is german, not ukrainian ;)
sry, iwas thinking of the GTD-1250.
if its a german engine...maybe so. but i highly doubt the chinese use gas turbine in 99. a diesel is more reliable, proven, easier to use, and fuel effecient.
 

Aluka

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ok aluka. we got the last type 99 thread closed because u kept argueing it was t-72 copy. so lets avoid the t-72 entirely.
The thread in which i claimed ZTZ-99 to be based on T-72M was not closed, the old forum was. Anyway, it's obvious - the design is generally similar and it has the same kind of autoloader, so driver should feel pretty much similar.

As for the new type - i suspect that old-looking ZTZ-99 were actually upgraded ZTZ-98, and new ones were built recently. I've done some surfing through baidu and found couple more pictures:
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The look of the turret's rear accidentally brought another idea - it doesn't seem to have case extraction hatch, so probably this new tank has T-80-style or even some new autoloader.


Oh, and yes, MTU881 is german.
 

MIGleader

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ger_mark said:
the mtu 881 is no gas turbine but a diesel engine
same used in pzh 2000
im talking about the gtd-2500...for a certain someone who thinks everything in the type 99 is ripped off the t-72...
 

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