New Type98/99 MBT thread

Totoro

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i believe production rate was so far roughly 2 battallions worth of type 96 and one of type 99 per year. With roughly 45 tanks per battallion that'd suggest 45-ish type 99 per year. a2 model, or should i say b model seems to be in production for the last 3 or 4 years. So perhaps 150-ish made so far?
 

paintgun

Senior Member
Really good shot of the turret shape

We have known that Type-99 employs ERA bricks and Leopard style spaced armor, but this shot just show how well protected the turret is with this variant
 

siegecrossbow

General
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Recent exercise at Zhu-Ri-He base. The red faction used Type-99 for support and finally won a Pyrrhic victory against the blue faction. They lost all three previous engagements against the blue faction, which, despite using inferior hardware (Type-59 and Type 96 tanks), employed superior electromagnetic countermeasures.

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no_name

Colonel
It's a potential two-way lesson. How to utilize inferior hardware to fight opponents with advanced hardware, and how to adapt when electronically suppressed or disabled.
 

siegecrossbow

General
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It's a potential two-way lesson. How to utilize inferior hardware to fight opponents with advanced hardware, and how to adapt when electronically suppressed or disabled.

Actually this isn't the case. I did some reading on Zhu-ri-he exercise. Despite the fact that the blue side used inferior equipment, it didn't really matter since the exercise used "laser" as simulation munition. The guns on the Type-59s have the same penetrative power as M-1s in the simulation. The rules are actually pretty biased towards blue. Here are some examples.

1) One shot from a "blue" tank is all that's required to take out a red tank (since they are simulating M-1 Abrams).
2) If the red vehicles/personnel don't perform proper maneuvers within a predetermined time window, they are automatically out since presumably U.S. air support could take them out easily within the given time frame.
3) Blue tanks/personnel could respawn immediately after getting taken out (pretty sure that there is a limit to the number of times they could do that :eek:).

Basically the blue side is a rough approximation of the best that NATO has to offer. Red is pretty much expected to lose every single time and basically improve their tactics. The outcome of the game doesn't really matter that much.
 

texx1

Junior Member
Actually this isn't the case. I did some reading on Zhu-ri-he exercise. Despite the fact that the blue side used inferior equipment, it didn't really matter since the exercise used "laser" as simulation munition. The guns on the Type-59s have the same penetrative power as M-1s in the simulation. The rules are actually pretty biased towards blue. Here are some examples.

1) One shot from a "blue" tank is all that's required to take out a red tank (since they are simulating M-1 Abrams).
2) If the red vehicles/personnel don't perform proper maneuvers within a predetermined time window, they are automatically out since presumably U.S. air support could take them out easily within the given time frame.
3) Blue tanks/personnel could respawn immediately after getting taken out (pretty sure that there is a limit to the number of times they could do that :eek:).

Basically the blue side is a rough approximation of the best that NATO has to offer. Red is pretty much expected to lose every single time and basically improve their tactics. The outcome of the game doesn't really matter that much.

It's nice to see PLA brass have no illusions of the kind of unfavorable conditions it might face during actual conflicts against NATO foes. By giving blue side overwhelming advantage in training is a great way to improve red side's reaction time, firing discipline, first shot accuracy, camouflage ability and emission control, vital skills that will pay great dividend in times of war.
 

TerraN_EmpirE

Tyrant King
That's the whole point of OpFor training. To teach your people they are not invincible and make them have to totally change there mind set.
 

no_name

Colonel
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Type 96A in Tibet with all female crew.
I thought Tank maintenance and repair can be a physically demanding job even for men? And the type 96A only have 3 crews?
 

plawolf

Lieutenant General
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Type 96A in Tibet with all female crew.
I thought Tank maintenance and repair can be a physically demanding job even for men? And the type 96A only have 3 crews?

The amount of maintenance and repair a tank crew could realistically perform out in the field by themselves are pretty limited. Most of it would need to done back at base or with the help of dedicated engineering units with specialist heavy equipment.

The most physically demanding job for tankers would be the loader who has to manually load pretty heavy shells. But since the 96 uses an autoloder, that's not such a problem for all female crews.

But in all honestly, I would not get too hung up on the notion that men are automatically more physically capable then women. These are not just your average random selection of the female population. To even be considered these girls would have had to pass minimal physical standards.

All female tank crews are also not unprecedented, the Soviets used them in WWII and what those girls did would have done any crew proud, and they didn't have auto loaders back then.
 
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