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Bigboii

Junior Member
Registered Member
Hello! I am a Pakistani-American undergrad student living in Buffalo (go Bills!!)

My run in with this forum started when I went to Pakistan 2-3 years ago and I saw the transformation taking place in the country

Thier infrastructure looked world class, they had international level malls, good cars, clean cities and Chinese influence (for example they had this subway type train project and the Pakistani operators were wearing this big millitary hat that they have in cammunist nations, Chinese written in random places)

This got me interested in the whole China-Pak relationship especially the CPEC project

and ofcourse I am also an American so suspicion of China and it's goals in my home country is natural...

So in my research I went into the rabbit hole of CPEC trying to understand from Chinese perspective what's in it for tham, thier ambitions, will they take advantage of the devoloping nation and in the rabbit hole I came across this forum

And after some lurking I liked it, people cammunicate respectfully without insulting other people and the millitary conversations here is top class

I definitely feel y'all take America way too light and it seems China is already a superpower which I think is totally a circle jerk and will cost dearly (if this is the mentality shared by the Chinese "powers to be")
 

siegecrossbow

Lieutenant General
Staff member
Super Moderator
Hello! I am a Pakistani-American undergrad student living in Buffalo (go Bills!!)

My run in with this forum started when I went to Pakistan 2-3 years ago and I saw the transformation taking place in the country

Thier infrastructure looked world class, they had international level malls, good cars, clean cities and Chinese influence (for example they had this subway type train project and the Pakistani operators were wearing this big millitary hat that they have in cammunist nations, Chinese written in random places)

This got me interested in the whole China-Pak relationship especially the CPEC project

and ofcourse I am also an American so suspicion of China and it's goals in my home country is natural...

So in my research I went into the rabbit hole of CPEC trying to understand from Chinese perspective what's in it for tham, thier ambitions, will they take advantage of the devoloping nation and in the rabbit hole I came across this forum

And after some lurking I liked it, people cammunicate respectfully without insulting other people and the millitary conversations here is top class

I definitely feel y'all take America way too light and it seems China is already a superpower which I think is totally a circle jerk and will cost dearly (if this is the mentality shared by the Chinese "powers to be")

Welcome to the forum. Most of the people on the forum are either Chinese or second generation Chinese abroad. I don’t think anyone influences direct governmental decision making lol.
 

Bigboii

Junior Member
Registered Member
Welcome to the forum. Most of the people on the forum are either Chinese or second generation Chinese abroad. I don’t think anyone influences direct governmental decision making lol.
Yeah ofcourse!!

But I was talking about the fact that if the members in some ways represents the "thaught process" of people living in China
 

Gatekeeper

Brigadier
Registered Member
Hello! I am a Pakistani-American undergrad student living in Buffalo (go Bills!!)

My run in with this forum started when I went to Pakistan 2-3 years ago and I saw the transformation taking place in the country

Thier infrastructure looked world class, they had international level malls, good cars, clean cities and Chinese influence (for example they had this subway type train project and the Pakistani operators were wearing this big millitary hat that they have in cammunist nations, Chinese written in random places)

This got me interested in the whole China-Pak relationship especially the CPEC project

and ofcourse I am also an American so suspicion of China and it's goals in my home country is natural...

So in my research I went into the rabbit hole of CPEC trying to understand from Chinese perspective what's in it for tham, thier ambitions, will they take advantage of the devoloping nation and in the rabbit hole I came across this forum

And after some lurking I liked it, people cammunicate respectfully without insulting other people and the millitary conversations here is top class

I definitely feel y'all take America way too light and it seems China is already a superpower which I think is totally a circle jerk and will cost dearly (if this is the mentality shared by the Chinese "powers to be")

Welcome to the forum. This is indeed a higher end forum. No way are we here similar to Jai Hind crowd. Most of the members here are ethnic Chinese, and although it sounds as though we are taking "America lightly" rest assured none of us are doing that.

We are merely pointing out their flaws, this is because the MSM are always gaslighting Chinese flaws and down play the flaws in the west. So it is more a frustration rather than a "circle jerk".

So no, we are nothing like the Jai Hind crowd. Please respect our members and rules and you'll be fine.

Enjoy your stay and hope you can learn more than you would by looking at your Pakistani media, and the western MSM along.
 

Bigboii

Junior Member
Registered Member
Welcome to the forum. This is indeed a higher end forum. No way are we here similar to Jai Hind crowd. Most of the members here are ethnic Chinese, and although it sounds as though we are taking "America lightly" rest assured none of us are doing that.

We are merely pointing out their flaws, this is because the MSM are always gaslighting Chinese flaws and down play the flaws in the west. So it is more a frustration rather than a "circle jerk".

So no, we are nothing like the Jai Hind crowd. Please respect our members and rules and you'll be fine.

Enjoy your stay and hope you can learn more than you would by looking at your Pakistani media, and the western MSM along.
That was the plan when I started lurking here some years ago and now I finally decided to give it a go
Cause Pak media sounds like CCP funded mouth pice when they talk about China in Pakistan and western media is for sure biased and it leaks into the general society (including myself tbvh)

So best way to stay neutral in our current media scenerio is to understand as many viewpoints as possible and that's why it's important to know the Chinese viewpoint too

Now my military knowledge is trash compared to majority of y'all but I'll try to catch up, fingers crossed lol

What's MSM btw?
 

Gatekeeper

Brigadier
Registered Member
That was the plan when I started lurking here some years ago and now I finally decided to give it a go
Cause Pak media sounds like CCP funded mouth pice when they talk about China in Pakistan and western media is for sure biased and it leaks into the general society (including myself tbvh)

So best way to stay neutral in our current media scenerio is to understand as many viewpoints as possible and that's why it's important to know the Chinese viewpoint too

Now my military knowledge is trash compared to majority of y'all but I'll try to catch up, fingers crossed lol

What's MSM btw?

MSM short for western main stream media.
 

siegecrossbow

Lieutenant General
Staff member
Super Moderator
That was the plan when I started lurking here some years ago and now I finally decided to give it a go
Cause Pak media sounds like CCP funded mouth pice when they talk about China in Pakistan and western media is for sure biased and it leaks into the general society (including myself tbvh)

So best way to stay neutral in our current media scenerio is to understand as many viewpoints as possible and that's why it's important to know the Chinese viewpoint too

Now my military knowledge is trash compared to majority of y'all but I'll try to catch up, fingers crossed lol

What's MSM btw?

But I was talking about the fact that if the members in some ways represents the "thaught process" of people living in China

Contrary to popular beliefs, the Chinese don’t share one though process. The most patriotic/arrogant ones can put the milder Jai Hinds to shame, but there are also extreme liberals who not only want to democratize the country but remove all “Chineseness” from the nation. To be fair there are fewer of latter than the former, and almost none on our forum.
 

ougoah

Colonel
Registered Member
Hello! I am a Pakistani-American undergrad student living in Buffalo (go Bills!!)

My run in with this forum started when I went to Pakistan 2-3 years ago and I saw the transformation taking place in the country

Thier infrastructure looked world class, they had international level malls, good cars, clean cities and Chinese influence (for example they had this subway type train project and the Pakistani operators were wearing this big millitary hat that they have in cammunist nations, Chinese written in random places)

This got me interested in the whole China-Pak relationship especially the CPEC project

and ofcourse I am also an American so suspicion of China and it's goals in my home country is natural...

So in my research I went into the rabbit hole of CPEC trying to understand from Chinese perspective what's in it for tham, thier ambitions, will they take advantage of the devoloping nation and in the rabbit hole I came across this forum

And after some lurking I liked it, people cammunicate respectfully without insulting other people and the millitary conversations here is top class

I definitely feel y'all take America way too light and it seems China is already a superpower which I think is totally a circle jerk and will cost dearly (if this is the mentality shared by the Chinese "powers to be")

Really? I was not aware there were any immediately obvious results from CPEC project. The big military hat for a train operator seems very strange. You will not find that in China anymore except actual military officers.

Is Pakistan mostly a textile producing nation? With EU sanctions looming or at least ever present as a threat, how do you feel Pakistan will deal with industrial and economic realities that are looming - automation, increased manufacturing moving to places like Thailand, Bangladesh, Vietnam, and Philippines... even India, rather than Pakistan. What are Pakistan's plans for making money and developing industries in the future? Which industries are likely? I personally doubt CPEC can be much more than a pit stop and one route between China and Europe. Pakistan may make some change from ports and servicing the trade but it has quite a population to feed and provide jobs for just to get onto the path of development.
 

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