Violet Oboe
Junior Member
Recently I received some unconfirmed information that the NATO Reporting Name (identical with the respective DoD designation) for the JH-7/A is ´Flounder´.
The KJ-2000 AWACS is designated ´Mainring´ and several variants of the Harbin Z-9 helicopter are called ´Haitun´and even the small transport Harbin Y-11 has received the NATO code ´Chan´.
The classified code names are created by the ASIC (Air and Space Interoperability Council) with members only from the US, UK, Australia, Canada and New Zealand (hum, thats the same anglophone UKUSA gang which is operating ECHELON
) and after the name finding process they forward the compulsive new list to all NATO members.
Apart from the fact that obviously the DoD and MoD equivalents of Beavis and Butthead are very hard at work in this ´committee´ (come on flounder and mainring! they must have been on meth or something even more heavy :roll: ) some serious questions remain about this peculiar names:
1. Do the japanese and south korean military forces use these designations? e.g. if a pilot of a JSDF F-15J actually spots a JH-7 or a KJ-2000 does he report a ´Flounder´ and a ´Mainring´back to base ?
2. Some european countries like France, Italy and Germany have harmonious and mutually beneficial relations with China and they are very keen that this is staying so for the time being. Adopting classified NATO code names officially would be offensive towards China since these names are intentionally hostile and pejorative and are deeply rooted in cold war thinking. Publicly France and Germany are absolutely ruling out that a military conflict with China is even only conceivable but obviously their officers are thinking otherwise or the matter is only some kind of bureaucratic inertia left over from cold war times. (Have you knowledge guys whether these code names for chinese aircraft are actually taught at the military academies in France, Germany, Italy ??)
3. What the hell is the NATO reporting name for the J-10 ? Hopefully nothing like ´Flouter´ or ´Funky´!
(seriously, there was some speculation about the NATO J-10 codename recently but that was certainly not the real thing, so what do you know guys ?!)
The KJ-2000 AWACS is designated ´Mainring´ and several variants of the Harbin Z-9 helicopter are called ´Haitun´and even the small transport Harbin Y-11 has received the NATO code ´Chan´.
The classified code names are created by the ASIC (Air and Space Interoperability Council) with members only from the US, UK, Australia, Canada and New Zealand (hum, thats the same anglophone UKUSA gang which is operating ECHELON
) and after the name finding process they forward the compulsive new list to all NATO members. Apart from the fact that obviously the DoD and MoD equivalents of Beavis and Butthead are very hard at work in this ´committee´ (come on flounder and mainring! they must have been on meth or something even more heavy :roll: ) some serious questions remain about this peculiar names:
1. Do the japanese and south korean military forces use these designations? e.g. if a pilot of a JSDF F-15J actually spots a JH-7 or a KJ-2000 does he report a ´Flounder´ and a ´Mainring´back to base ?
2. Some european countries like France, Italy and Germany have harmonious and mutually beneficial relations with China and they are very keen that this is staying so for the time being. Adopting classified NATO code names officially would be offensive towards China since these names are intentionally hostile and pejorative and are deeply rooted in cold war thinking. Publicly France and Germany are absolutely ruling out that a military conflict with China is even only conceivable but obviously their officers are thinking otherwise or the matter is only some kind of bureaucratic inertia left over from cold war times. (Have you knowledge guys whether these code names for chinese aircraft are actually taught at the military academies in France, Germany, Italy ??)
3. What the hell is the NATO reporting name for the J-10 ? Hopefully nothing like ´Flouter´ or ´Funky´!
(seriously, there was some speculation about the NATO J-10 codename recently but that was certainly not the real thing, so what do you know guys ?!)
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