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siegecrossbow

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Breadbox said:
On the topic of Star Wars,

I'm sure everyone's heard enough dunking on the Sequel trilogy at this but I'm going to dunk them right now because they deserve it for being

I personally don't understand why people like The Force Awakens at all, the most enjoyment I had is watch the title crawl at the beginning. There's zero world-building, the Empire is back and somehow more powerful because of course they are, and this 'republic' that existed for 3 minutes for the sole purpose of being blown up by Neo Deathstar, things are sounds important(like the Neo deathstar) are casually brought up and then destroyed with zero long term consequence whatsoever, remember how the destruction of the original death star is the end of the original trilogy while the destruction of the neo death star is a "yea, whatever" moment for both side involved?
The plot is devoid of any suspense or intrigue because you've watched/read it before(the biggest reason personally) and the visuals and actions are nothing special.
The characters are either mid or laughable, Rey is synthetic diamond of a character, she's super serious, good at everything from the get go and clearly requires no character development and there's Fin the former stormtrooper who got the big sad from his buddy being KIA and cured it by betraying and slaughtering the rest of his buddies immediately after. Who tf wrote this? The nostalgia baiting also does nothing to me, it's just feel so unoriginal and underdeveloped in everything, the plot, visuals, world-building and characters.

I'm one of the person who enjoyed the Last Jedi alot more than The Force Awakens, because a 'wait, wtf?' movie is alot more enjoyable than a bland predictable one. I applaud Rian Johnson as the man who would boldly interrupt a boring social gathering with a clown parade because at least something interesting is happening now. Sure, it might be full of red herring plot-lines and bizarre, frustrating character decisions but at least something entertaining(in a clownish manner) is happening on screen.

I did not watch the Rise of Skywalker, the moment I heard that Palps is returning I lost any interests in watching, JJ Abrams is literally tearing down everything that mattered in entire original trilogy and lighting it up as bonfire just so that he can shamelessly nostalgia bait a little more. Nothing I've heard about it sounds remotely interesting, boring mcguffin goose chase with boring characters, antagonists/threat out of a extremely bad fan-fiction, it's quite literally:
"Oh no! Palpatine somehow returned with one million star destroyers on Planet Evil Dark, also Rey is Palp's granddaughter wuttt???"
The best complement I can give is that at least JJ abrams resisted the urge to give Palps one hundred starkiller base as well(that all spontaneously explodes at the end). Oh and Rey calls herself Skywalker and that's apparently the rise of Skywalker I guess. Couldn't read more like a shitty fanfic if it tried, it isn't just bad as a standalone, it retroactively made all the previous movies worse by erasing their impact.

Come to think of it, the only good Star Movie that has came out since the prequels is Rogue One, a movie that is actually thoroughly interesting to watch without resorting to throwing BS at the wall. Maybe it's just a average movie and the extreme shittiness of the sequels made a movie that's merely decent a glowing star in comparison.
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It should be encouraging for incels around the world. If an old prune like Palpatine could get laid, so can you.
 
Helius

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Thing is, the original novel didn't go beyond the premature helium flash (the projected event that eventually resulted in "Wandering Earth project") finally came to pass as predicted. In short, the original isn't a long story.

Wandering Earth 2 is a prequel to the first movie, with the success of the first movie more budget went into this one and flesh out the settings. Still, its scope is very "near future", more grounded than that of "The Expanse". Don't know if the writer going to expand the story further.
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solarz said:
Pretty sure TWE3 will take place in 2078, quite possibly where TWE1 left off.
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I think the sequel would be set in the near future, too. The thing with that though is that it would be yet another crisis-turned-adventure on an Earth that's still wandering through space with 2,500 years still left to go.

Not that it would be a terribly bad thing business-wise if a series of bombastic sci-fi actioners is what they have in mind for the franchise. They can milk this for all of its worth as action blockbusters like the Fast & Furious films and keep churning them out as long as the market is for it.
 
solarz

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Helius said:
I think the sequel would be set in the near future, too. The thing with that though is that it would be yet another crisis-turned-adventure on an Earth that's still wandering through space with 2,500 years still left to go.

Not that it would be a terribly bad thing business-wise if a series of bombastic sci-fi actioners is what they have in mind for the franchise. They can milk this for all of its worth as action blockbusters like the Fast & Furious films and keep churning them out as long as the market is for it.
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The mid-credit scene at the end of TWE2 pretty much spells out their plan for TWE3.
 
Breadbox

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So I just watched The Wandering Earth 2 in theatre, I really like it, it's better than the first, the plot/world-building/spectacle is alot thicker this time and I felt more than 99% of all movies these days, I imagine they have a bigger budget and went all out for the sequel this time. Most of the disaster/Sci fi movies these days have me feeling nothing but not this one. It's definitely not a movie that you watch only because you are Chinese, it is perfectly capable of standing on its own and is better than the vast majority of other movies of the same genre.

The few criticism I can give is some of the english voiceovers aren't great, I don't know if it's dubbed in after the fact or something, but it sounds unnatural/ if you understand english. Also, Andy Lau's mandarin voice-acting isn't to the quality of other Chinese actors which undermines the emotional moments of the movie somewhat, but that's understandable.

This one is not a criticism, but the side/support characters are culturally diverse to a comical degree, it's like they a diversity quota pushed up to 11 where each team must contain not 2 person from the same continent.
Also, the unrealistic part of the movie is that random people from the world give a fuck about the project testing the feasibility of saving human existance.
 
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Breadbox

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Just want to add little bit more, the Wandering Earth 2 isn't just better but considerably better than the first in every aspect, the first is one isn't terribly ambitious in its story/emotional aspect while the second leaned hard into both the plot and emotional aspect.

I liked the first one but only felt lukewarm after the fact, so I dragged my feet on seeing the sequel because I expected a movie of a similar quality, it easily exceeds my exception. Definitely go see it in cinema even if you are unimpressed with the first.

I say it's better than the vast majority of the movies of the same genre, but I've actually yet to think of a better one in the disaster/space genre.
 
solarz

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Breadbox said:
Just want to add little bit more, the Wandering Earth 2 isn't just better but considerably better than the first in every aspect, the first is one isn't terribly ambitious in its story/emotional aspect while the second leaned hard into both the plot and emotional aspect.
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I actually prefer the first one for that exact reason. The first movie was more intimate. The story focused on the struggles of one family instead of three distinct plotlines. Both Wu Jing and Wu Mengda's performances were incredible. Wu Mengda especially, was practically unrecognizable in this role.
 
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Breadbox

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siegecrossbow said:
Longer movie though, almost three friggin hours. That alone guarantees that you can’t show the movie as many times in theater. Basic science really.
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Going off a tangent here as it reminds me of how some movie "critic" unironically complains that some movies are too long, a good movie is never too long and a bad movie is never too short, most of the top grossing movies of all time are freakin long(by movie standards), I hope movie critics stop saying that movies being too long when it's just them wanting to be somewhere else instead, can't even concentrate for a few hours and these people are supposed to be "movie critics". These are the sort of "criticism" that actively makes movies worse than better and sound identical to corpo speak where they want to compromise the quality for profitability.
 
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