More suspension can be needed if these things are dropped from aircraft by parachute. Also, these are now optionally manned as we saw a whole formation of these being remote controlled, so it may not be all crew comfort related. The added suspension can also handle larger recoil.
Mountain Cat light amphibious ATV
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Network centric combined arms warfare using a formation of Mountain Cat ATVs.
The formation is made up of three components, with all vehicles being armored, and communications and coordination via radio and relay drone.
– Recon component at the forward position, composed of three recon ATVs, one communications ATV, one command ATV, and one transport/supply ATV.
– Following behind recon is the infantry component made up of three infantry companies riding armored ATVs, with one command ATV, nine support ATVs, and nine transport ATVs.
– At the rear, behind the infantry, lies the fire support component made up of eight 120mm mortar ATVs, three ATVs mounting autocannons that fire 40mm case telescoped rounds, and three transport/supply ATVs
The formation is made up of three components, with all vehicles being armored, and communications and coordination via radio and relay drone.
– Recon component at the forward position, composed of three recon ATVs, one communications ATV, one command ATV, and one transport/supply ATV.
– Following behind recon is the infantry component made up of three infantry companies riding armored ATVs, with one command ATV, nine support ATVs, and nine transport ATVs.
– At the rear, behind the infantry, lies the fire support component made up of eight 120mm mortar ATVs, three ATVs mounting autocannons that fire 40mm case telescoped rounds, and three transport/supply ATVs
Is that a good way to go about an assualt? It seems like most of those lightly armoured mountain cats would get destroyed by even heavy machine gun fire. Unless they are going to be un-manned this seems a bit too idealistic for my taste.Network centric combined arms warfare using a formation of Mountain Cat ATVs.
The formation is made up of three components, with all vehicles being armored, and communications and coordination via radio and relay drone.
– Recon component at the forward position, composed of three recon ATVs, one communications ATV, one command ATV, and one transport/supply ATV.
– Following behind recon is the infantry component made up of three infantry companies riding armored ATVs, with one command ATV, nine support ATVs, and nine transport ATVs.
– At the rear, behind the infantry, lies the fire support component made up of eight 120mm mortar ATVs, three ATVs mounting autocannons that fire 40mm case telescoped rounds, and three transport/supply ATVs
by78
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It depends on the adversary. I doubt they are designed to go up against well equipped forces belonging to a well organized state actor. I see them as a rapid reaction force to take out a terrorist output, for example.
have you thought about who they are going to be attacking here, lol. Think about a certain adversary really near by that will probably be without air defense and electricity pretty soon and where China will have full air control. Think about what you can land with your Z-8Ls at night time with little change of detection.
Voila, you have your answer!
somehow they managed to put 40mm into their ATVs, but their next gen IFVs is still using 30mm, interestingNetwork centric combined arms warfare using a formation of Mountain Cat ATVs.
The formation is made up of three components, with all vehicles being armored, and communications and coordination via radio and relay drone.
– Recon component at the forward position, composed of three recon ATVs, one communications ATV, one command ATV, and one transport/supply ATV.
– Following behind recon is the infantry component made up of three infantry companies riding armored ATVs, with one command ATV, nine support ATVs, and nine transport ATVs.
– At the rear, behind the infantry, lies the fire support component made up of eight 120mm mortar ATVs, three ATVs mounting autocannons that fire 40mm case telescoped rounds, and three transport/supply ATVs
PS: does anyone know what firepower does their "squad support vechicle" have? 12.7?
An attack with that many assets requires a ton of coordination. So, I’d say it’s more or less a demo of how the network can help commanders effectively coordinate small vehicles like the Mountain Cat. It’s certainly not a demo of a specific doctrine.
depends on assaulting who, if your target is a bunch of light infantry without heavy fire powers, then it is more than enough, plus I do recall seeing Z20 with ATVs hanging under it, so might be that.
that reminds me though, do any of us know the self sustainability of the mountain cat? like the max distance they can go without any new supply?
edit: yeah, in other thought you might need a bit too much of Z20s to deliver a battalion unit so... please ignore that
It's still the fact that those mountain cats likely can't even stand up to small arms fire, to land a decent sized force would make a ton of noise via helicopters, you're better off just using conventional APC/IFVs in that scenario. Although the ability for such a compact vehicle to participate in sophisticated network centric operations is nothing to scruff at either.
I'd see this as more of a technology demonstration rather than actual tactics in that case.
Two aspects, on the one hand most mountain cats can be remotely controlled and I suspect that the 105mm gun version may need to be loaded by hand.
Secondly they carry a sighting and fire control system sufficient to destroy an opponent outside the effective projection range of a heavy machine gun. If you pay attention to the Russian-Ukrainian war you will see that the tank, i.e. the fire control system on vehicles, is sufficient to strike targets up to 3 km away, which is difficult to do with the equipment carried by a single soldier.