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KenC

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There will always be corruptions and under table dealings in developing countries, and it is not only confined to Africa or Kenya.
It is truly up to the elite class to deal with it, but when your system is established in such a way to facilitate corrupted transactions, then it just become a matter of who is less corrupted and and still get the job done. The problem is worse if the core (ruling elite) is highly corrupted. It is good governance and not democracy that is required. Blaming Chinese is convenient for the currently marginalized part of the establishment to court public opinion but when they are in power, they are no different.
 
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taxiya

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LawLeadsToPeace said:
That's a very dangerous accusation you are making. There are members here who are of Chinese descent who have jobs and family in the West. For example, Gatekeeper (rip his account) is living in the UK with a good job and family, therefore he has a huge stake in the West. Yet he isn't acting like Boris' lapdog. As for everything else, I would have to agree. Kenyans are humans just like us, not endangered animals. They need to stand up for themselves and stop expecting people to fight on their behalf and give them everything on a silver platter. Unlike the West, the Chinese don't care about who is in power or what kind of government a country is ruled by as long as both sides can agree and adhere to their signed contracts. Corruption is caused by a government's incompetence, not by foreigners.
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I live in the west, I have the stake in west too, my pension and house etc. So am I accusing myself too? I am certain that I am not brainwashed, nor the other members living in the west.

People having a stake do tend to and are motivated to defend their interest even if that interest is brought in by wrong-doing, but people don't necessary do that because of their sense of just. These are just plain fact.

So I don't see why my post can be over interpreted to be aiming at people other than this particular person.
 
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MortyandRick

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solarz said:
What makes you think Xi has any authority over companies operating overseas?
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I meant if Xi tell these companies to NOT give kick backs. Yes he does have the power, all governments have power to control their companies, the will to use those powers are a different story.
 
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ZeEa5KPul

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China tested a nuclear-capable hypersonic missile in August that circled the globe before speeding towards its target, demonstrating an advanced space capability that caught US intelligence by surprise. Five people familiar with the test said the Chinese military launched a rocket that carried a hypersonic glide vehicle which flew through low-orbit space before cruising down towards its target. The missile missed its target by about two-dozen miles, according to three people briefed on the intelligence. But two said the test showed that China had made astounding progress on hypersonic weapons and was far more advanced than US officials realised. The test has raised new questions about why the US often underestimated China’s military modernisation. “We have no idea how they did this,” said a fourth person.
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I know how. China used its time machine to steal future US tech.
 
horse

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hashtagpls said:
Also anglos at NASA have deigned to accept Chinese assistance in space so long as China follows Anglo standards lololololol
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1449371627162980353
Someone better tell the anglos they’re gonna have to learn to speak Chinese and follow Chinese standards if they want to get beyond low earth orbit
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China has to invade Afghanistan, then I-raq if we use that standard ...

:oops::p
 
solarz

solarz

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MortyandRick said:
I meant if Xi tell these companies to NOT give kick backs. Yes he does have the power, all governments have power to control their companies, the will to use those powers are a different story.
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Are you really that naive or are you being deliberately obtuse? Do you think companies report to Xi personally telling him we bribed so and so?

If a Chinese company was rumored to have bribed a Kenyan official for some project, how do you know it's true? Just because the media reported it? What's the evidence? How would the Chinese authorities gather that evidence? Is the Kenyan government going to let Chinese prosecutors check Kenyan officials' bank accounts to search for discrepancies?
 
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