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siegecrossbow

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So India is making an example out of Sri Lanka for rest of south Asia, be with us or this is what we'll turn you into

Doing this propoganda as in China is bringing debt trap into SA - so they're not good news your only option is India

This crisis mainly happened because Indian gov made it harder for thier tourists to visit Sri Lanka and they earn a lot of thier forex from Indian tourists

So goi decided to show Sri Lanka it's muscles

(Remember a somewhat pro India gov was removed and a more independent gov showed up in Sri Lanka - so this was Goi response to curb thier "independent" streak)

They should be worried about their own food shortage pretty soon.
 

j17wang

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Now these British monkeys along with their media propagandists are now trying to attack China’s core identity as an old civilizational state. Something that's been started by another British propagandist Bill Hayton when he wrote the book The Invention of China. I have a feeling that these bastards are really trying to create some kind of friction and maybe find some kind of fault line within China's various ethnic groups to sow in their minds that China as one country only existed pretty recently. Man, these people are getting ever so desperate and are real losers, not to mention ignorant of Chinese history.

LOL, who cares. We all know the the United States and other british colonies are not today, nor were ever States in any moral sense of the worth. Their genocides of indigenous populations made the nazis look like saints.

The greatest americans would always be the native americans who fought mercilessly against thier doom, as well as african gangs who hunt down white supremacists for sport.
 

Bellum_Romanum

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What are the odds... Interesting times we're living in makes it difficult not to become conspiratorial when stuff like this happens. Germany isn't exactly a truly independent country ever since it deservedly lost in WWII. And as one famous quip about NATO it's created to keep the Russians out, the Germans down, while the U.S. remains inside it's security apparatus in perpetuity.

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DarkStar

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ome kind of friction and maybe find some kind of fault line within China's various ethnic groups to sow in their minds that China as one country only existed pretty recently. Man, these people are getting ever so desperate and are real losers, not to mention ignorant of Chinese history.
Such is the nature of the anglos, they want to deprive all of humanity of their nationhood so that we become nothing more than boxed in consumers of their products, tech slaves to anglo corporations. In this view, you can understand why globohomo wants to destroy all nations in favour of a New World Order based on anglo chauvinism.
 

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Don't worry. This so-called "new cooperation" is merely that Antonov buys semi-finished titanium structures. China is not investing anything, the Ukrainian pay, China deliver, no danger.

Not trustworthy. Infact some days ago the Ukrainian president was begging for the US to assist it against Russia. Some months ago it was also begging to have a meeting with Biden.

Now if they want cooperation, thats fine. China, however, hould ensure that it gets practical benefits, doesbt make any big investment to Ukraine, and make quick transactions with guarantees from the Ukrainian gov.

Ukraine has shown beyond a doubt that it is not trustworthy and whenever the US throws a nine to Ukraine, it will not hesitate to throw China under the bus.

Ukraine = extremely untrustworthy country

My thought exactly. Dont trust those ex-Nazi Ukrainians one bit. They are still the puppets of the U.S. and EU

This is the easy explanation, the excuse they use to "blur the waters" of the situation. The Greek debt after 11 years of strong austerity measures imposed by EU is going straight up and how it couldn't be like this? If you force an indebted company to get more loans, the only thing you can get is the company to sink more into debts. The austerity measures are not helping at all the economy to roll. Here in Greece we have 24% VAT and triple property tax to name some. How can a bussiness even start and consequently thrive with such a hostile economic environment? You cannot attract FDI in production, you cannot be competitive in manufacturing and innovation, all we can observe is an invasion of retail and services mostly from the Big Guys of EU. German TUI is the biggest tourist operator in Greece, Fraport( a state owned German entity) got all the airports (state owned), Ferrovie (State owned Italian railway company) got the Greek National Railways, Deutsche Telekom took the Greek National telecom company, biggest ports are for sale or sold (Piraeus port maybe the biggest in Mediterranean, sold to COSCO -the loopholes that i mentioned before-). State monopolies like Public Power Corp, Greek sugar industries, the public pension and insurance funds forced to break up and sold. Gold mines to Canadian Eldorado Gold... Every major corp of the public sector which was profitable forced to break up into pieces and be sold to foreign private or state capital either local capitalists due to "anti-market practices". Even "Larco" a state owned top to bottom Nickel and Cobalt mining and proccessing company is being forced to break into pieces and be sold, while it could be the "locomotive" of economic recovery now that new green technologies are penetrating our everyday life more and more. All the Greek right wing liberals were applauding because they would get a piece of the pie of the Public sector. They once mocking the Greek state as the last Soviet in Europe. Now they should be proud that we are a failed Banana republic in Europe.
Yes a lot of money came from EU, mostly for infastracture, but it is for sure, not for free. Most of infastracture went to private sector to operate but the state retains the expence of maintenance. Fraport, the German operator of the former state owned aiports got 200million cash from the Greek State two months ago because of the losses of pandemic. (why?because we are colonised!) The situation is insanely corrupt...Local bourgeoisie and their pets (politicians) exchanged our national sovereignity with the "easy money pouring from EU"
These, to take a little taste of the true nature of the EU if you had any delusions :)

You can't blame other people when Greece went on a spending spree using borrow money. No one put a gun against Greece's head and say: here, take this money.

How did you Greece got from the poorest nation in the EU to one of the top GDP per capita in next to no time? Not by selling Olive oil, is it? Or tourism?

I still remember when Greece were dirt poor. Then all of sudden, with all the money borrowed from the EU, hey, everybody's living standard increased. Well, the chicken is coming to roost.

You either pay your debts, or default. Greece choose the former. All you describe is the symptoms. What is your solution to your country's ills?
 

Sardaukar20

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Indians are at it again. Accusing China of a crime that they are more than guilty of doing.
The think tank Law and Society Alliance launched its report on Friday, entitled "Mapping Chinese Footprints and Influence Operations in India." The 76-page study report enumerates "the covert and overt influence operations" carried out by China in cultivating, funding, and sponsoring Indian institutions including the media and individual opinion-makers. Indian strategic affairs experts who were speaking at an online discussion following the release of the report accused China of buying support for itself "among the academia, think-tanks, media, trade bodies, tech companies, filmdom, and political parties in India to influence public opinion and destabilize the nation from within."

But of course these Indians conveniently ignored the report by EU Disinfo Lab that was published last year which documents India's own propaganda campaign around the world.
It's actually India that has been fabricating facts to affect international public opinion. In December 2020, the Brussels-based nongovernmental organization EU Disinfo Lab, published a report titled Indian Chronicles, revealing that it had uncovered a Delhi-based Indian holding company Srivastava Group and its "15-year misinformation campaign," which aims to reinforce anti-Pakistan and anti-China sentiment in India. The report aroused the attention of the international community.

According to the EU Disinfo Lab's report, the media coverage of Indian chronicle operations has covered 116 countries and 9 regions, and the content produced was primarily targeted at Indian nationals with an extensive coverage of these barely known "media," MEPs and "NGOs" in Europe. This is enough to show that India's disinformation network is very mature and India is much too familiar with affecting public opinion. New Delhi is making groundless accusations against Beijing when itself is to blame.

India's main purpose in catering to the West is to build its image as a so-called democracy by smearing China and Pakistan. India is trying to promote itself as a great power in the world and tarnish China's international image. India is now concentrating not only on politics but also on its economy, seeking to relocate parts of the global value chain to India. But India will not succeed in enhancing its national power through these gimmicks.

Facing India's information war against China, China must expose what India has done to the people of the world and call on the international community to fight against such acts of fabricating history, distorting facts and producing false information, which has become common government-backed actions in India.
True. But still, it is a shame that it took China only until 2020 to fully wake up to this Indian belligerence. All that FDI, Wuhan summit, and hyping up India as the next developing brother from the 3rd world. When during all those times, India has been actively scheming to undermine China.

India for all intents and purposes have:
1) An active propaganda war against China.
2) Actively supported Tibetan separatism in China to this day.
3) Is now being led by the West into supporting other separatisms in China.
4) Desires and attempted to steal supply chains from China. India have even tried to do so (and more) during China's own Wuhan Covid-19 outbreak.
5) Attempted, albeit poorly of decoupling its economy from China.
6) Invaded Chinese territories.
7) Killed Chinese soldiers.
8) Conspired to sponsor terrorism that have indeed killed Chinese citizens.
9) Entered into a pseudo 'alliance' that is aimed at containing China.

Why should China still give so much respect to India? I hope this Chinese optimism of India has ended in 2020. People like me who have been observing from the outside for years can see the true ugliness of the Jai Hinds and their politicians. No amount of Chinese goodwill or money is gonna change their minds. Enough is enough! It is best for China to just cut their losses and look elsewhere. Diplomacy and investment is better spent on other, far more respectful and grateful countries in South Asia, SEA, Central Asia, Middle East, Africa, and Latin America. India was an experiment, and a failed experiment.
 
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DarkStar

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What are the odds... Interesting times we're living in makes it difficult not to become conspiratorial when stuff like this happens. Germany isn't exactly a truly independent country ever since it deservedly lost in WWII. And as one famous quip about NATO it's created to keep the Russians out, the Germans down, while the U.S. remains inside it's security apparatus in perpetuity.

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It's so obvious that the anglo americans had a hand in this totally-not-suspicious passing of the German abassador to China; bigger question is what Germany's security services are going to do about the death of their own ambassador?
Are they going to finally pull the plug on anglo america's hand up their ass?
Or will China and Russia need to teach the Germans another lesson in civilisation? Anglos are overdue for their remedial lessons, naturally.
 

BoraTas

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So India is making an example out of Sri Lanka for rest of south Asia, be with us or this is what we'll turn you into

Doing this propoganda as in China is bringing debt trap into SA - so they're not good news your only option is India

This crisis mainly happened because Indian gov made it harder for thier tourists to visit Sri Lanka and they earn a lot of thier forex from Indian tourists

So goi decided to show Sri Lanka it's muscles

(Remember a somewhat pro India gov was removed and a more independent gov showed up in Sri Lanka - so this was Goi response to curb thier "independent" streak)
China should answer this with low-interest or no-interest debt and SWAP agreements. India is not in a position to play economic hegemonism in China's backyard if China doesn't allow it. India neither has economic size, tax base, consumer market or external trade volume to play this game. The only reason it can play hegemonism is China's decision to not to play this game.
 
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