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windsclouds2030

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This actually reminds me of an anecdote (which may very well be false) about Thomas Edison's old adage "success is one percent inspiration and 99 percent perspiration". Supposedly, the version most people know is incomplete and the original version has an addendum:

"Without the one percent inspiration, the 99 percent perspiration is useless".

Likewise, Deng's original quote has an addendum.

韬光养晦 (hide your light and bid your time). Which is widely quoted in the West.

有所作为

What does 有所作为 mean? I'll leave the pretend experts like Mr. Kausikan to put it through Google translate and find out.
I check my notebook, Deng Xiaoping's whole line regarding that quote is:

沉着应付,善于守拙,决不当头,韬光养晦,有所作为。

沉着应付 - to remain calm in the face of adversity (idiom)
善于守拙 - to be good at being free from ambition
决不当头 - never take the lead
韬光养晦 - to conceal one's strengths and bide one's time (idiom)
有所作为 - attempting nothing and accomplishing nothing (idiom)

Kausikan just quoted one part of the total five parts of the Deng's advices, and used or misused it as deemed fit his own notions :p
 

weig2000

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This actually reminds me of an anecdote (which may very well be false) about Thomas Edison's old adage "success is one percent inspiration and 99 percent perspiration". Supposedly, the version most people know is incomplete and the original version has an addendum:

"Without the one percent inspiration, the 99 percent perspiration is useless".

Likewise, Deng's original quote has an addendum.

韬光养晦 (hide your light and bid your time). Which is widely quoted in the West.

有所作为

What does 有所作为 mean? I'll leave the pretend experts like Mr. Kausikan to put it through Google translate and find out.

Some years ago, I had documented some of the widely misquoted or deliberately misrepresented Chinese public statements, particularly by the western media and politicians to suit their own purposes. This is one of the best known examples.

First of all, some context. When Deng was said to make the statement, it was shortly after the '89 Tian'anmen Incident and waves of the collapse of the Eastern block countries and finally the Soviet Union (“苏东坡/波” ). Deng was essentially advising that the CPC and Chinese leadership should not stick out its neck to stand up for the cause of socialism and communism. It was a low point of the socialism/communism movement world-wide and China should lie low and focus on developing herself, unless it was absolutely necessary to defend your own core interest.

Now, it's very clear that Deng's advice was very specific to the circumstance back then in the early '90s, the end of history and all, you know. The opposite of Deng's advice is NOT things like "Made in China 2025" or Belt and Road Initiative that China embarked on 30 years later, considering the state of China's economy and its comprehensive national power at the time. In other words, it has no bearing whatsoever on whatever national strategy that China follows thirty years later.

The westerners now deliberately use this piece of presumed advice - there has never been any official document or policy paper that specifically stipulates that China stick to such a strategy or whatever it means - to accuse China of violating this policy, as if China has broken any solemn pledge to the west and the "international community." This is both disingenuous and self-serving.

This is not an isolated example. In 2015, Obama confronted Xi Jinping on China's supposedly island building activities in South China Sea and Xi's response was China had no intention to militarize these islands if there were no military threats directed against China in SCS. Clearly it was an expression of restraint IF the other party would not engage in threatening military activities in SCS, like the FONOPs etc. The US, obviously, would not stop fdoing that sort of things, including intruding within 12 miles of China's territorial waters of some of the islands. So it's moot point to accuse China of putting defense assets on these islands while the US continues to do its things. Yet, that has not stopped the western media and public figures from accusing China of breaking "Xi's promise" of not militarizing these islands.

There are numerous other examples of western media twisting of Chinese statements. For example, the supposed statement from Yang Jiechi, then China's foreign minister, in a closed door meeting in 2011 with ASEAN foreign ministers and Hillary Clinton, the Secretary of State, that "China is a big country while others are small country." Much ink has been split over this twisted and out-of-context quote from Mr. Yang. I had debunked the mis-characterization many years ago at SDF. Consider also the until recently wide-spread assertion that "China spends more on domestic stability maintenance than on defense annually." This ridiculous assertion gained much popularity among western media as evidence of China's presumed instability. Obviously it's gone out of fashion now since it's so clear which countries have been more unstable. This accusation actually emerged out of China initially within a different context and for a different purpose. The western media simply hijacked it to suit their own purpose. I will not going into details and nature about these allegations to keep this post relatively short.
 

Maula Jatt

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He's the former Interior Minister. I don't think we should immediately jump to conclusion, still need to wait for official word from Pakistan government.
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Now this is serious

He is a foreign minister and not a loud mouth type guy who'll start blaming people for everything

This news comes after months of investigation and a proper press conference with evidence etc
 

taxiya

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Is the US Ambassador there too? I would think not cos they have the death penalty in some states don't they?
The US does not have ambassador in China for the moment. The top diplomatic official is David Meale Chargé d’Affaires a.i. (ad interim). I think he was there.

About the US having death penalty, you forget how hypocritical these garbage are.

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horse

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Above is what the author said.

So' it's all China's mistakes to not abide the Deng's thought in 1990s,

I think that's what the author implies.

Actually, I have a very simple thought about that "mistakes" alluded to in the article, but to get to that, we must look at the more complicated history.

What did comrade Deng say before he invaded Vietnam? Deng Xiaoping said Vietnam must be taught a lesson, even if it cost Yunnam province 25 years of development. Of course it did not work out that way, they had their brief war, then eventually everyone forgot about it and moved on.

These were complex geopolitical calculations Deng made when he order the invasion of Vietnam. China did not always have a set plan.

(Note that, that at that time, the USSR had a military pact with Vietnam, that the Soviets would attack whoever attacked Vietnam. What the Chinese did was remove their frontline military units along the Soviet border, and retreated to the cities. If the Soviets were coming over the border because China invaded Vietnam, then it will be street to street fighting. That was the story.)

But after that invasion, and since nothing else happened, years later the central leadership concluded there would be a long period of peace, and China did more reforms and engaged more with the world.

That was the strategic outlook, and it tends to evolve.

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That was the history, now we get to this "mistake" part.

My idea, or opinion, is very simple.

Those Indians always claim that the Chinese are making a "mistake."

They do so for 2 reasons I believe. One is to belittle China.

The second reason is the more obvious, and it is just like the American football game. Sometimes one team to so much better than the other team, that the lesser team can no way win the game, unless the better team fumbles the ball or throws interceptions. In short, the weaker team can only win if the stronger makes "mistakes."

The Indians, no matter how high up or low down in their society, always believes China will make "mistakes" so they can catch up or look not as bad.

You gotta have hope right?

So that is what they always say, which becomes typical to their mentality, because they have nothing else to say.

I don't really mind the Indians that much, but too much bs and not enough hard work. Instead of waiting for "mistakes" from the other team, they should make their plays better, and try to win.
 

horse

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Really on brand for the Anglos that the only ethnic minority in this sea of ham pink is a bag boy.

Maybe that guy did not want to be on the stage.

Also, who knows where those people came from, they could be all actors.

Let's see if they keep coming back for the appeals, verdicts, appeals, etc.

:p
 
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