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LawLeadsToPeace

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You can't blame them. From reading all those overseas Chinese forums and reddit for ABC, most of them are very hostile to mainlanders.
Not only that, the Chinese people who got green cards or any equivalent overseas permanent resident documentation would go back and brag about how better they are than the other mainlanders. So, arrogance is a huge factor as well.
 

manqiangrexue

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China should start delivering on the goods if it wants S.Korea to stay at its side or at least stay neutral
Everything needs to be mutually beneficial. South Korea's not a cheap place; giving concessions that at China's cost equates to sending hostages to the other side so they can hold them over your head and ask for more to maintain "good relations."
Goods = N + S.Korea peace declaration
I don't think so. Give whom what? This doesn't make sense.
 

supersnoop

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I think most mainlanders accept ABC are Americans nationals born and raised in US. They know their loyalties are with US. What they can't stand I guess are those ABC they actively bash china and smear China to please the Americans.

I really can't help but put a lot of the blame on western politics. They are so obsessed with creating an us vs. them situation, and most people are indoctrinated into it. Doesn't matter what your race/ethnicity is. I was recently watching a TV show and the Chinese character was saying "I still have family in Hong Kong, they talk about protests quashed, rights taken away..."
FFS, what is that garbage? My non-fictional family in HK is more fearful of my safety in Canada.

As a result, a huge majority of ABC (or anyone born in the West really), totally buys into the notional, flag-waving "Freedom and Democracy" stuff. These people are basically the equivalent of Ultras.

I wouldn't say it's to please Americans/Whites necessarily, it's just that they don't know any better (or maybe they don't care to know).
 

voyager1

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Everything needs to be mutually beneficial. South Korea's not a cheap place; giving concessions that at China's cost equates to sending hostages to the other side so they can hold them over your head and ask for more to maintain "good relations."

I don't think so. Give whom what? This doesn't make sense.
As you know S and N Korea are still officially in a ceasefire. The next step which president Moon wanted to achieve, and spent a lot of political capital, is to have a formal peace treaty so that officially N and S Korea will have stopped the war.

Now formally the war has stopped a long time ago, but if a peace treaty could be made then that would be momentous step on what the Koreans want, unification.

Actually when Moon was elected he wished for a peace treaty but the Trump (in my opinion) administration wasn't acting in a good faith and the negotiations broke down. Now Moon tried to be in China's good grace but it didn't achieve much on this front, imo mainly because of US sabotage on N.Korea peace treaty and China's reluctance to use its influence.

Moon has faced tremendous pressure domestically because of sticking close to China but he still remains committed on this relationship. However as long as results are not produced, dont be surprised if he is eventually forced to change stance.

Thats why I am saying that its time for China to start delivering for S.Korea (obviously China will buy its neutrality or even friendship). China talks a lot but it doesn't deliver on the N.Korea issue. The rest of the world knows that China holds influence on N.Korea which whilst not unlimited it is still powerful


TLDR: In the period of extreme competition with the US, China should start producing results where it can if it wants to demonstrate that it is a true friend/ or a trustworthy long-term partner
 

Chish

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Simple. Unlike Canada they are actually feeling the heat.
Not hard to understand why.
Canada largest trading partner is the US with trade surplus to Canada. Canada has a relatively tiny trade with China with an increasing trade deficit. So losing the China trade is not a problem for Canada.
However, Australia biggest trade surplus is with China which is more than the total of its next two biggest surplus countries, Japan and South Korea.
Australia already has a trade surplus with India, it's 4th largest trade partner, but India want to export more and buy less Australia products especially in the future.
And Australia is one of the very few countries which has a trade deficit with the US. Giving the US leverage over Australia.
This whole situation is putting Australia in a quandary. It's future economy is increasing tied to the economic growth of Japan, S Korea and India as Australia depends on exporting raw materials and pumping up the values of its real estate. It has already loss its massive tourists and education's trade. So the China trade is a big deal at least in the next 5 years.
 
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