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Randomuser

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Something I noticed especially in the west is the appointment of ex-investment bankers to very powerful political positions. Macron, Carney and Sunak were all ex-ibankers. Trump's main business guys like Powell, Bessant, Lutnick and Warsh are all ex-ibankers too.

Thats not to say high finance guys weren't in the government before. But it seems to be more and more of them now.
 
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FriedButter

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The Arabs will soon get the honored privilege of watching everyone else sell expensive oil while they sell the scrap metal of what use to be Arab energy facilities.

MAGA: Oil price are transitory and temporary.

Scoop: Saudi defense minister says Trump not bombing Iran would embolden regime​

Saudi Defense Minister Prince Khalid bin Salman (KBS) said in a private briefing on Friday in Washington that if President Trump doesn't follow through on his threats against Iran, the regime will end up stronger, four sources in the room tell Axios.

Why it matters: This is a reversal from the public Saudi talking points cautioning against escalation and from the deep concern Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman (MBS) expressed to Trump three weeks ago. That warning was one reason Trump decided to delay a strike.

Catch up quick: KBS, the crown prince's younger brother and closest confidant, was visiting Washington for meetings on Iran as the region braces for U.S. military action, and a response Tehran has vowed would be "unprecedented" in scope.

Trump has ordered a massive U.S. military buildup in the Gulf, though White House officials insist he hasn't made a final decision and is still willing to explore diplomacy.

At the moment, there are no serious direct negotiations between the U.S. and Iran. U.S. officials say Tehran doesn't seem interested in a deal based on the maximalist U.S. terms.

"Iran always wants to make a deal. But what kind of deal do you want to make is the problem. What kind of deal Iran wants to make and what kind of deal the U.S. accepts? That's a very good question, and we don't see it coming together at this point," a Gulf official said.

Driving the news: KBS held a lengthy meeting at the White House on Thursday with Secretary of State Marco Rubio, Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth, White House envoy Steve Witkoff and Joint Chiefs chair Gen. Dan Caine.

The primary focus was on the possibility of a U.S. strike in Iran, according to a source with knowledge.

Between the lines: Saudi Arabia's public posture has been very cautious. MBS told Iran's president in a call on Wednesday that the kingdom would not allow the U.S. to use its airspace for an attack on Iran.

The Saudis said in a statement that they respect Iran's sovereignty and seek a diplomatic solution.

Behind the scenes: KBS was less restrained in an hour-long meeting on Friday with around 15 think tank experts on the Middle East and representatives from five Jewish organizations.

According to the sources, he said he thought Trump would have to take military action after threatening it for weeks, but would also have to try to mitigate the risks of regional escalation.

"At this point, if this doesn't happen, it will only embolden the regime," KBS said, according to the sources in the room.

Two sources said they understood KBS to be reflecting the message he'd conveyed at the White House. However, he also said he left that meeting without a clear idea of what the Trump administration's strategy or intentions were on Iran.

In a separate briefing on Friday, a Gulf official said the region was "stuck" in a position where the U.S. striking Iran risked "bad outcomes," but not doing so would mean "Iran will come out of this stronger."

The intrigue: Just three weeks ago, the Saudis were practically begging the U.S. not to bomb Iran and warning of the risk of regional war, U.S. officials say.

One reason for the shift could be that the Saudis have determined Trump has decided to strike, and don't want to be seen as opposing the move.

Zoom out: Three sources in the room said KBS insisted Saudi Arabia was not pivoting farther away from Israel, or toward the Muslim Brotherhood.

He also rejected concerns attendees raised about a rise in anti-Israel sentiment in the Saudi press and social media.
"He said several times that it was nonsense. The more he said it the less reassuring it sounded," one participant said.
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Faisal Iqbal

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Thats geo politics and geo economics on speed run, that's Trump working like catalyst, thats the ratcheting up of the 'Donroe Doctrine', just check out the one year of Trump 47 presidency era's effect on single element Silver.

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hifisnow

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Interesting conversation here. What I don't like is how typical of Europeans to believe everyone secretly agrees with them. Like in the HBO TV series The Regime they think everyone secretly wants to ally with the West, Europe specifically. In here he says he's spoken to Chinese officials who he says secretly agree with Europeans on like Russia and Ukraine. Then you hear from others who say China is behind Russia's invasion of Ukraine because they ask themselves why would Russia do that at all? However they do accurately point out that the West can't get straight to the point they want to make... Well does China secretly agree with them or are they actually behind what Russia is doing? Then they admit that even though China has the capability to significantly change the world to green energy, but politics in the West prevents that from happening simply because it's more important to deny it from China over the well-being of the world.
Really don't want to watch anything NYT...... Looking at timestamps, are they still doing that whole "peak china" masturbation?
 

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Well, we have received a stern rebuke from Guo Jiakun, a mere straw man. That will surely teach them. Given Beijing's consistently toothless response after every previous seizure listed above, what do we expect the next act of theft to be?
When something like this happens, it's emotional bait; America wants to see China waste its time and resources coming down hard and making little enemies all over the world when everything they did was out of fear of America. This is America's favorite game; it has set the rules and the board since WWII, embedding each country with corrupt politicians, spies and when that fails, with threats of violence. If China engages in this game with America, we will lose; if we want to make these countries more scared of us than America, we will lose. This is not our game, not yet.

The proper development of a superpower is economy, technology, defensive military, power projecting military. Our economy went into 2 trade wars with the country that commands the global reserve currency, something only a country with no sense of self preservation would dare attempt... and we won both times. Our technology has broken every collective Western chokehold, surpassed them in the majority of crucial fields, then dealt the US a liver blow with rare earth restrictions. Our military makes China impenetrable no matter how many trillions Trump wants to raise the US military budget to and our 2025 military parade made that painfully obvious. Now, our military holds the upper hand in Asia and is expanding bluewater capabilities to challenge the US on the open oceans, which would finally bring power projection when complete. But the last step is not complete yet, so it would be foolish to act emotionally as if it were. Before this last step is complete, we cannot afford to play America's game.

China is oftentimes referred to as the nation that does nothing and wins. That's just a joke; China works tirelessly but all of our meaningful actions are quiet and within our borders. When we fortify our economy, we win; when we invent new cutting edge technology, we win; when we outbuild any other military in the world, we win. This is our game where the US, and the entire West will lose to us, even with all their might combined. Against a waning superpower that is rotting inside out as it is being deconstructed in the same order that China is being built, its military and power projection abilities are the last to fall. So you may criticize China's responses as toothless when confronted with American power projection, but that's because we are quite toothless there and acting like we are not with a premature conflict and entry into America's power projection game would only be to our own detriment.

When we're taking pot shots from an enemy that is currently sitting out of range, running for cover and accepting the damage while closing distance is the most intelligent and beneficial thing to do. Raging at him while trying to attack the spears and arrows he throws at us is what he wants. With a fledgling aircraft carrier fleet and most of our best weapon designs in final design, testing or LRIP, China will not compete in foreign influence against a country that desperately sends its 11 aircraft carriers to abduct foreign presidents who will not play to its tune. This is not a game we will win at this time; for now, we must continue to play our own game out-developing every country out there even if there will be insults and small injuries we would do best not to dwell on.

The final years before the Soviet Union fell were America's most restrained years. Even in the face of Soviet provocation and aggression, America remained calm and non-escalatory, not because it was weaker, but because it felt that trading a bright and rising future to a declining rotting rival in a final nuclear showdown was a very bad deal. Best to gently let the dying die rather than honor him with a brilliant final fight while he's still capable.
 
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