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pmc

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BoraTas

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It's a sad thing that no country seemed to support China in this matter. It's like everyone secretly enjoy Japan provoking China.
Western-Chinese relations have been bad consistently from the early-1800s to today. WW2 was the only very brief break. It is the opposite for Japan. The Japanese-Western relations were good from the fall of Tokugawa to the 1920s. Really, it is was always a futile effort for China to establish cooperative relations.
 

Temstar

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It's a sad thing that no country seemed to support China in this matter. It's like everyone secretly enjoy Japan provoking China.
No one is supporting Japan either, other than that dummy Singapore. Hell Trump even did his "not all our allies are friends" talk.
Almost everyone is sitting on the side line eating popcorn watching how this plays out, which is the correct attitude to take.
 

supersnoop

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No one is supporting Japan either, other than that dummy Singapore. Hell Trump even did his "not all our allies are friends" talk.
Almost everyone is sitting on the side line eating popcorn watching how this plays out, which is the correct attitude to take.
Remember when the kempeitai machine gunned thousands of Chinese-Singaporeans on Sentosa beach?

Pepperridge Farms might, but modern Singapore apparently does not.
 

Quan8410

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No one is supporting Japan either, other than that dummy Singapore. Hell Trump even did his "not all our allies are friends" talk.
Almost everyone is sitting on the side line eating popcorn watching how this plays out, which is the correct attitude to take.
You are wrong. Plenty of countries supported Japan. Most notably Vietnam where they all share about Nanjing massacre as if it's something Japan should be proud of. And they still think China as 東亞病夫. Despite 2 millions of Vietnamese killed during Japan invasion.
 

Temstar

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You are wrong. Plenty of countries supported Japan. Most notably Vietnam where they all share about Nanjing massacre as if it's something Japan should be proud of. And they still think China as 東亞病夫. Despite 2 millions of Vietnamese killed during Japan invasion.
I'm talking at a governmental level, ordinary people you see online are:

1. Possibly not even real people but Japanese bots, Takaichi is notable in making heavy use of them relative to previous Japanese PM

2. They go with which ever way the wind blows

They don't matter.

At a governmental level not even people like Marcos or Modi are standing up for Takaichi, nevermind Albanese. This lack of support has already been noticed by the Japanese themselves but they can't back down because they're stuck.
 

Eventine

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Vietnam hating China is understandable; after all, what is now North Vietnam was ruled by Chinese dynasties and/or warlords for more than a thousand years, which despite evidence to the contrary, their nationalist historians still paint as a long period of colonial oppression. Japan's time in Vietnam, like the US's and the French's, was a blink of an eye, by comparison.

It is a complex also shared by Korea, which is why the Koreans (like the Vietnamese) keep trying to paint Chinese history and/or culture as "not Chinese," just so they could avoid being seen as former Chinese subjects that could become so again. It's also why they fear Chinese hegemony much more than American hegemony - because in their mind, China could actually finish the job.

Whenever you see people with persistent dislike of China, it is almost always driven by self-interest. Back in the 1980s and 1990s, Japanese actually had positive sentiments towards China because they were investing heavily in China and saw it as the future of their economic empire. Then the Lost Decade hit and China started rising and taking their jobs/industries and the rest is history. The same is true of the US - the 2000s were the height of US-China relations because the US was certain of its hegemony and saw China as a giant money bag. Then the 2010s hit and the rest we all know about.
 

Randomuser

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To be fair whether China is liked or not at this point makes no difference. Few countries liked or at least helped China in a substantial manner when it hit rock bottom. Yet China still prevailed.

Forget about that century of humiliation stuff. Even when PRC established, few people gave it real support and for a while it was enemies with both US AND Russia. The only reason US opened relations with China is coz they kinda had no choice and needed someone big to work against Russia. In the end China emerged as a big winner in the cold war. During Covid and Biden continuing Trump trade war policies, there were few to support China during that time. Some even gleefully hating on China like India and Japan saying this sanction will be the final straw. Fast forward today and now China has so much clout not because people magically like China but because they have no choice but to accept it.

If you want to care so much about being liked, you can be like India. Except I don't actually think they actually care otherwise they would actually reflect on their actions. What they don't like is being looked down on more specifically.

When you are a winner everyone will bootlick you and when you are a loser, everyone will hate you. Therefore just focus on making the proper choices and continue developing. The rest will follow. I would say people are being more anti west now simply coz they don't have the same level of power and money as before yet they haven't changed the way they act to reflect that.

Thats why even though China and Russia have had mixed relations, I will always give credit to Russia because they actually gave actual help during the times that really mattered. Hell even the US gave something although it was a rare moment. The same cannot be said of places like Japan, India or UK which are overwhelmingly negative.
 
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