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manqiangrexue

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ChongqingHotPot92 said:
Relatives speaking, Shanghai does have more problems. It has more money and most foreign connections compared to the rest of China, so when those “degenerates” tried to score political points to protect their often illicit assets, they have direct access to foreign media outlets sitting there. That’s why you hear so many stories coming out of Shanghai. People in Chengdu and Shenzhen are equally angry at the mismanaged lockdowns, but they don’t have the media narrative power like the Shanghai-based “degenerates.” Keep in mind that nobody was there to speak on behalf of the actually citizens suffering from the lockdown. It was a political battle with the lockdown victims being used as cannon fodders. And for the 大白 neighborhood committees and security guards empowered to carry out the lockdown, they were powerless to deal with the well-connected degenerates, so they exploit the ordinary hardworking people by trying to force them buy overpriced food/materials from them. Unfortunately, Shanghai “degenerates” you mentioned just happened to be so connected internationally and within the party apparatus. They are the Yeltsins within China. Otherwise, how did they get so rich and well-connected in the first place?

Sounds like Shanghai needs a Cultural Revolution-like purge? Well if you do that, you may as well kiss goodbye to 40 years of successful development. That’s why I argue that there are no short term solutions to this problem. The long term solutions lies in making judicial system more effective and fair, allowing other social and public forces to check the plutocracy of those degenerates.
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The degenerate is you, people who who complain about the government that kept them safe. If they don't like the voice and representations they have, so they bite the hand that feeds them and guards them, then they should try and see how much voice they have when they're dead like they deserve. If they want liberal freedoms, they can find all of it that they can handle on the frozen concrete next to the reefers used to store dead bodies by the American hospitals.
 
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Phead128

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ChongqingHotPot92 said:
It was an overreaction to a new strand of virus that could not have been stopped in the first place.
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It's a minor inconvenience until a vaccine is available that can save millions of lives. Of course, you don't care about saving live of greater community, so why do you care about the well being of the Chinese people with your faux outrage and concern trolling?
 
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pmc

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Yeah, China doesn't have any allies, but It's good that the US instead has its gazillion "allies" in the Middle East and the world. With such "friends", I guess you don't need enemies. Saudi Arabia helped push Russia's oil and budget incomes to pre-war levels and did this price hike in the election year for Biden.
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Higher Oil prices is more to help US and stock market driven firms as there cost structure is too high. One of Board of director at
Black Rock is Saudi. and if Biden not elected than it will be Trump or any Republican that is more effective. The basics of Royal Arabic business is to enjoy monopolies for oversize profits. it can be anything from Airline routes to that Software giants. if US can impose its military products on Europe for more profits Arabs will further invest them. French could not impose French products like Dassault Rafale on Europe despite decades of patronage from Arabs and this has impact on French in various ways.

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Serb

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1. Sanctioning China because of China's purchase of Iranian oil; 2. Imposing high tariffs on Chinese steel and aluminum products. (Even if the import volume accounts for a negligible proportion); 3. Accusing China of economic and trade relations with Russia, threatening sanctions on Chinese technology companies; 4. Accusing China of "overcapacity" in new energy vehicle lithium batteries and photovoltaics, and imposing sanctions. 5. Continue to pressure the Netherlands and Japan to tighten export restrictions on semiconductor equipment and materials to China on the grounds of safeguarding national security. 6. Launched a 301 investigation into China's maritime, logistics and shipbuilding industries, claiming that it has infringed on the interests of American companies.
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A list I found on Twitter of just short-term US confrontational behavior. It is an obvious escalatory and "new normal" behavior of the US toward China, different from even a year ago, hell from even a few months ago.

So, nothing will go back to those good old times that many people hope or remember, it will only go downhill from here in reality.

Their hostile policies toward China are exponentially increasing constantly on a daily basis (new bullshit). You couldn't have even dreamt of this new reality in relations even in 2019.

That's why I always say that it wouldn't be very strange, judging by this level of increased provocations, to have a full-blown hot war before 2030, it is logical if the trend continues.

For more optimistic users here, why do you think that the US would pull the plug eventually and stop this behavior? What is your reasoning outside of maybe some wishful thinking?

The only cope I see being mentioned is that China would go so strong, that it would deter the US, but this is wrong, because in fact the opposite happened, the stronger China got in the past, the more extreme US behavior toward it was. That is all pointing at more hostility.

You can say that the weaker the US gets and the more problems internally and in the other parts of the globe it experiences it would stop, but recent history also tells opposite and places this as a non-factor at best.
 
tygyg1111

tygyg1111

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ChongqingHotPot92 said:
The first part of your argument is defiantly true. Even if the Chinese economy were to crash tomorrow, there would unlikely to be famines or large scale civil war/social unrests that characterised much of Chinese history prior to 1978. The social structure and institutions are strong enough to keep the ship from suddenly sinking.

As with hopes for a better future though, the 2022 Omicron lockdowns really dashed many people’s confidence in the government’s ability to solve problems. Intentions were good, but when authorities to lock people up or forcefully evicted to quarantine centres, those who were charged to carry the operations at the lowest level of the power echelon REALLY enjoyed showing off their authority. Then you got all kinds of abuses you read on Weibo. And all those measure failed to stop Omicron. It took an uprising by November 2022 to force Xi to completely renounce the long-failed Zero Covid policy. By then, people’s hopes were dashed. China still has yet to recover from that social trauma.

The abuse of power at the lower levels of the nomenklatura style bureaucracy shows a failure of administration similar to those of the Great Leap Forward, but thankfully far less people died. No accountability or course correction what so ever until too late. Nonetheless, it has not stoped folks from questioning whether their kids could have lives.
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I have a suggestion and a question:

Suggestion: Suck it up

Question: Did you have a strong father figure growing up? Because men who grow up with good male role models typically don't whinge like this at slight inconveniences. And yes, to me lockdown was just a slight inconvenience. It would take living my whole life in a warzone, or Detroit, to make me question whether my kids could have lives.

What you mentioned is just spoiled brat behaviour, boiling down to the simple butthurt that they are not calling the shots and ruining the future of mankind by chucking a Javier Milei. Maybe a good beating ought to straighten them up.

P.S. If you haven't already, please emigrate, preferably illegally for the lolz, to the US. I hear dishwashers are getting paid at least $100k USD per year, in cash (therefore no damn tax). I also hear the drug cartels are really, really helpful in getting fellow bootleggers over the border to taste some liberal freedoms.
 
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supersnoop

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ChongqingHotPot92 said:
The long term solutions lies in making judicial system more effective and fair, allowing other social and public forces to check the plutocracy of those degenerates.
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It is mainly an idealistic pursuit
sh*tty people going to be sh*tty. Doesn't matter if it's America, China, Belize, or Zimbabwe. Basically an endless cat and mouse game. Does not mean you do not try, but it will be endless.

Case in point
We still see western media talk about the evil chinese commie Melamine tainted baby formula like it would never happen in the west. Instead you have not properly cleaning and maintaining machinery to allow cronobacter sakazakii to grow and contaminate baby formula. Totally different! Also it's natural!
 
coolgod

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https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1781166149314457685

Reports of a suicide attack in Mansehra Colony area of Karachi on a convoy carrying foreigners, working on port Qasim. There are reports of multiple casualties of security personnel.

Apparently at least 1 Chinese citizens was killed by this terrorist attack. China really needs to do something about these Indian sponsored terrorist attacks.

Edit: I was mislead, it was actually 5 Japanese nationals who were attacked, so far only the two attackers were killed? Technically not China's problem this time, but still not a good look for CPEC.
 
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Overbom

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coolgod said:
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1781166149314457685

Reports of a suicide attack in Mansehra Colony area of Karachi on a convoy carrying foreigners, working on port Qasim. There are reports of multiple casualties of security personnel.

Apparently at least 1 Chinese citizens was killed by this terrorist attack. China really needs to do something about these Indian sponsored terrorist attacks.
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Pakistan is a lost case. When their own military is more concerned about getting bribes by the US than defending against terrorists dunno what you expect China could do.
 
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I think Shanghainese are patriotic citizens who help China.

I'm not sure where this myth of Shanghainese being separatist or unpatriotic is coming from.

Do we see large-scale protests in Shanghai? No. Do we see terrorist attacks in Shanghai? No. Do we see Shanghaiese waving or wearing foreign flags? No. Do we see large numbers of Shanghainese complain or criticise China excessively? No. Do we see any Shanghaiese who want to secede from China? No.

There are areas in China in which all of the above are true. We all know which areas of China they are. But they're definitely not Shanghai.
 
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