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tygyg1111

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If spilling blood and burning treasure is too extreme for our liking then why not sanction Israel? Anything is better than doing nothing. The problem is, nothing besides empty words and platitudes is being done.
Moves should be made when the conditions are right, not when something happens and it would feel good to do so. Ensuring China holds advantage is the highest priority, even if it means 'looking' like you're doing nothing, because appearances mean jack in the face of facts.

China building out the SCS islands when the conditions were right was the correct move; it bought us time and security for our shipping lanes.

China not lethally dealing with Philippines fishermen for driving dinghys around in our waters, and "teaching them a lesson" in the process, was the correct move, because doing so would have gained us nothing but cost us a lot.

There's been many posters with similar sentiments over the years here, and over the years they've realized the action that was taken was in fact the correct way to go forward, because had that not been the case, we would be in a far worse position today.

It's also why Europe is f*cked today - it acted out of bravado instead of determining an action for the circumstances and moving at the right time; a result of it's own arrogance and US compromise.
 

jiajia99

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Twitter NAFOers should follow suit! They would be doing a great service to the internet and humanity!


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Well that is one nasty way to get rid some some of the most horrible Nazi supporters, send them to the front into what is literally an open mine field. Still I do wonder, how is this going to look in the long term. When they run out of Ukrainians, will they send NATO soldiers and once they run out of those, will they send US troops. Ultimately, is sending soldiers to an area without air support a good idea, it’s like sending potato’s into a masher, i don’t know if these people have too much pride in Them Or they are far away removed from the Consequences that they don’t care at all.
 

Chevalier

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Well that is one nasty way to get rid some some of the most horrible Nazi supporters, send them to the front into what is literally an open mine field. Still I do wonder, how is this going to look in the long term. When they run out of Ukrainians, will they send NATO soldiers and once they run out of those, will they send US troops. Ultimately, is sending soldiers to an area without air support a good idea, it’s like sending potato’s into a masher, i don’t know if these people have too much pride in Them Or they are far away removed from the Consequences that they don’t care at all.
In the past week we have the British prime minister Sunak bringing back conscription and the U.S. automating selective service for all men. Evidently, the anglos are moving towards war and preparing to mobilise, along with the chihuahuas in the Baltics and France pushing for boots on the ground in Ukraine.
 

tygyg1111

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In the past week we have the British prime minister Sunak bringing back conscription and the U.S. automating selective service for all men. Evidently, the anglos are moving towards war and preparing to mobilise, along with the chihuahuas in the Baltics and France pushing for boots on the ground in Ukraine.
I wonder how NATO conscripts compare with Russian conscripts... now experienced Russian conscripts
 

sheogorath

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Twitter NAFOers should follow suit! They would be doing a great service to the internet and humanity!


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Apparently this guy was also particularly nasty, being a fan of drone hate drops, posting it everywhere on reddit and mocking soldiers for begging for their life.

Kinda suspect such a patriotic Ukranian took this long to go to the frontlines and through the draft instead of volunteering.

also lol'd at this

Sokalskii said he uses Reddit to convey what he sees as "objective truth" about the war to its members, predominantly in the US, UK, and Germany
 

Sardaukar20

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So uh, I'm gonna be blunt here. What will realistically happen in consequence? Is China going to sanction Israel? Enforce a two state solution? Military intervention to stop genocide?

I think we all know the answers to these rhetorical questions. However, sometimes I wish that the CPC had the stones to actually do something abroad. Instead, we will sit here and watch as another peoples suffer the same things our ancestors suffered at the hands of the IJA. If the only thing we do is pay lip service to condemn blatant crimes against humanity, then I don't think China is ready to be a leader in "mutually prosperous world" nor will other nations see China as a leader.
You are not the only one to complain like this. There were many Arab and pro-Palestine activists who are complaining the same thing. Well, you're all wrong.

First of all, China had never proclaimed to being some kind of leader in the world. China is not India, who is hellbent on claiming some sort of leadership position in the world order. China is not Russia, who is seeking to save what is left of its old hegemonic empire. China is working towards a "mutually prosperous world", but China had never said that it wants to become the leader of that world. If anything China desires to be a leader by example, not a leader by coercion. China could lead by example, but if other countries don't want to follow, then that is their business. China won't come after them unless they're attacking China. If you resent China for that, then you don't know China enough.

It is not like China did nothing at all to help the Palestinians in Gaza. China had been busy in the UN trying to get the UN to take action on the issue. China had voted for multiple UN resolutions that would have condemned Israel. But they were vetoed by the US. A UN condemnation for Israel would have given UN-mandated legal rights for countries to impose sanctions on Israel, and possible military intervention. If anything, China had placed shadow sanctions on Israel, such as blocking its workers from traveling to Israel, and other ambiguous trade restrictions. China had also been sending tons of humanitarian aid to Gaza. That should never be disregarded. Just because China doesn't send aid to Gaza the flashy way like the West or Turkey, that doesn't mean that China did nothing for the Palestinian people.

But to call for Chinese military intervention in the Israel-Gaza war? Without a UN mandate? Or why does China even need a UN mandate? Because Palestine is located within the colonial backyard of Europe, where China has no military bases in place for basing and logistics. Because the PLA is in a strategic position of weakness in the Mediterranean and the Middle East. China would be intervening alone. Only fools would demand such a thing. Why must China risk its own people in uniform in Palestine, when neighbouring Muslim countries like Turkey, Egypt, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, etc does nothing but talk? These nations were so brave to intervene in the Syrian Civil War, against their fellow Muslim brother. Turkey was even brave enough to shoot at Russian jets and soldiers in Syria. Saudi Arabia and the other Gulf States had no problem killing scores of Muslims in Yemen for many years. Egypt was busy killing Muslims in Libya. Where were these bravery today? Especially now when Israel is carrying out active genocide on Palestinians.

Here is how to do a feasible military intervention in Palestine that might include Russia and China. Muslim countries nearby with sizable militaries like Turkey, Egypt, and Saudi Arabia. Grow some balls and militarily intervene in Palestine. Declare and enforce a no-fly zone over the skies of Palestine. Send your troops over to the Rafah border for humanitarian intervention. Open your bases, airbases, and naval bases for other countries to come participate and contribute. Invite Russia, China, Iran, India (for fun), Pakistan, and others to come and join this just fight. Only then, could countries from far away like Russia and China feasibly send their militaries over to fight Israel. Because now they are being offered regional bases and logistical nodes for them to carry out a campaign in the region. But these countries won't do it. Why? Because of America? Scared? Don't care? So now you demand for leadership from Russia or China? Why should they come and fight for you when your great regional Muslim militaries won't fight?

If you, the pro-Palestine and Muslim Brotherhood people who feel so strongly about the need for foreign military intervention in Palestine. You need to put your money where your mouth is. Walk the talk. Don't just complain! If you're a Muslim, volunteer to become a foreign Mujahedeen to fight in Palestine against the IDF. This is a righteous Jihad! Show to the IDF the same divine fighting spirit you had when you were killing Soviet soldiers in Afghanistan, killing Russians in Chechnya, killing Assad's people in Syria, or killing Gaddafi and each other in Libya. Where were you Mujahedeens after 7 months of Israeli butchering of Palestinians? Can't get into Gaza? But you guys were able to sneak into dozens of countries to wage your other Jihad. So maybe you guys didn't want to go to Gaza? If you're a non-Muslim, but want to fight the IDF, then become a foreign volunteer. Why are you guys only going to Ukraine? Is saving Palestinians from genocide not worthy or profitable enough? Prove to everyone, that your fight is worthy. Fight and die for the Palestinians first. Don't just demand for someone else to do it for you!
 
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