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Serb

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Point is look where those Muslim countries voted. Even Iran voted against you. This is supposed to be the global south alliance?


Many Muslim countries voted simply due to the tribalistic nature of their belief or some kinds of emotions.

That's how it is, if they could, they would always put members of their religion first,

No matter that this is a blatant attempt of the US to whitewash its real genocide in Gaza,

Or the fact that the members of the "victim" ethnic group in question are the US proxies.

We are not like China to have trillions of dollars so they shut up like in the case of Uighurs

And those Global South countries basically always vote in favor of Russia and China against the West.

So they are going to try and slightly appease the now West by voting against Serbia now as we are small fry.

This is their best opportunity for that. Nothing new here to be honest. That's how it was for a long time.

However, even with all of that, the explicit countries who voted in favor were only 84/193.

Also, these resolutions are useless, in real life, they can come and try to take ours 49% of Bosnia.

Iran can emulate a global hyperpower or something in trying to look tough in the eyes of those Bosniaks,

But at the end of the day, Iran, and many other Muslim countries are instead working in our favor by fighting against the US.

That's why I am not mad at Iran and similar Muslim countries for this virtual vote, they are not a threat,

Instead, they are benefiting Serbia's position in the long run by fighting against the West.

In the end, by helping US empire collapse, they would've actually made it worse for Bosniaks and Albanians.
 

azn_cyniq

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No. Historically, China suffered far more than benefited from Russia. China should support Russia because partnership today benefits both countries. Specifically, China should support Russia because supporting Russia is good for China. Past history (both the good and the bad) should have no impact whatsoever on the strategic calculus. Sino-Russian partnership has the potential to be mutually beneficial for a long period of time, and it would be in China's interest to focus on building lasting ties that will persist far into the future. But there should be no illusion of any form of, "forever brotherhood," and China should hedge against a divergence of interests between Russia and China. Again, the Sino-Soviet friendship lasted barely a decade before the PRC and USSR became strategic adversaries.
This is a fair assessment. I hope that China and Russia can go from strategic partners to friends. As you said, the China-Russia relationship is mutually beneficial and will continue to be mutually beneficial for a long time.

On the other hand, I think China should continue to distance itself from India. There is not much that China can gain from engaging with India.
 
On the other hand, I think China should continue to distance itself from India. There is not much that China can gain from engaging with India.
There's nothing wrong with engaging. You don't solely engage with friends/partners. A neutral India is still preferable to a hostile India. Distancing from India is going to drive India closer to the West, which is an undesirable outcome. Obviously, the type of engagement and cooperation that China can/should pursue with India is going to be different than with Russia or Pakistan.
 
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iBBz

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On the other hand, I think China should continue to distance itself from India. There is not much that China can gain from engaging with India.
Yes there is. There is always benefit in diplomacy. China and India should try to remain friendly and assure one another that there is no need to involve the US, and we know the US would love to do that based on their past and current behaviour.
 

Randomuser

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Yes there is. There is always benefit in diplomacy. China and India should try to remain friendly and assure one another that there is no need to involve the US, and we know the US would love to do that based on their past and current behaviour.
You basically have to pinch your nose when dealing with them. Chinese leadership who able to stand it really have nerves of steel.
 

azn_cyniq

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Yes there is. There is always benefit in diplomacy. China and India should try to remain friendly and assure one another that there is no need to involve the US, and we know the US would love to do that based on their past and current behaviour.
You're right, the CPC should ensure that war between China and India does not break out. Beyond that, it should try to distance itself from India.
 

Santamaria

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Point is look where those Muslim countries voted. Even Iran voted against you. This is supposed to be the global south alliance?
Well, the really global south "combating" alliance against the American empire during last 10 years is the next:

Russia Belarus Syria Iran Cuba Nicaragua Venezuela North Korea

This resolution only lacked Iran, but in exchange won China. Mexico, Algeria, Kazahstan, India and other important countries and some others also abstained. Venezuela did not vote for some reason

All the rest of the global south that vote in favor are the typical countries that have not done literally nothing to fight american empire and just talk and pretend.

In my view even if Serbia got condemned I would say this is a win for them.

On the other hand the vote of Iran is clearly wrong, but I think it is influenced by their election coming soon. Vote against that could have been used in the elections. US/UK outlet are expert in manipulate this kind of things.

So they preferred to avoid problems taking the easy non polemic way
 
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