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Brigadier
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This comment always get repeated but I don't see why it is not plausible. Labor cost is now inflated in the US and its easy to get paid 15-20 hr in californa /ny ... thats 35k a year vs 3$ a hour at the fox-con factory. Either way, your kinda enslave by your job. After 5 years, go back to China and buy yourself a condo in a was of Yuan and start a buisness. It's a very Chinese thing to do for some parts of China...migrating for work. Its not a matter of nationalism but a matter of getting a head in life if you are not in the middle/upper class. Staying in US forever may be a poor life choice at this point though
You won't get paid $15-20 an hour as an illegal in the US. Try being enslaved in a factory farm for $3 an hour with a confiscated passport at gunpoint.
 

james smith esq

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Which is weird because traditionally, merchants were seen as little better than thieves in Chinese culture.
It was the same in most societies until they started amassing untold wealth!

China’s economy is still heavily export dependent; until that changes, export interests will exert undue influence on policy decisions.
 
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TK3600

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The US wants to remain top dog in the military, economic, and technological domains while China wants a system where the US is not top dog. I don't see how this fundamental conflict of interests can be resolved without a clash of some kind and it seems the Politbureau finally sees it the same way.
It can be easily solved. China want a system where people leave them the fuck alone. US can remain top dog in its backyard.

But that apparently is too much to ask for so China is forced to be a reluctant hero displacing US.
 

TK3600

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Lol America continuing the psyop fake news about "Chinese migrants", when even their undereducated and brainwashed domestic audience isn't buying such an outrageous claim.

Last time they stole photos of some Chinese backpackers in South America/SEA. What's next, some hired SKorean or Vietnamese actors in staged shots?
Take a book from recent Iran CIA plot. Hire bunch of thugs dressed as Chinese police attacking American citizen. That will surely incite hatred!
 

james smith esq

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The only question is why did it take the Politbureau so long to finally realize the gravity of the situation. Even then, the return shots are not severe enough. Why only restrict gallium and germanium when neodymium, samarium, and tungsten are elements that the PRC have near monopoly over and would likely be more impactful? That's like playing the 10 and Jack of a royal flush.
I just hate to think that China will be caught in a reactionary mode when the collective-west, and it’s Asian-lackeys, attempt to pull the rug out from under China’s feet. The real war, right now, is a war for employment. China depends upon high-employment in order to maintain economic growth and the west in order to prop-up the ponzi-scheme stock-market. Whichever “side” can force the other into an employment depression will gain geo-political advantage.
 
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KYli

Brigadier
This comment always get repeated but I don't see why it is not plausible. Labor cost is now inflated in the US and its easy to get paid 15-20 hr in californa /ny ... thats 35k a year vs 3$ a hour at the fox-con factory. Either way, your kinda enslave by your job. After 5 years, go back to China and buy yourself a condo in a was of Yuan and start a buisness. It's a very Chinese thing to do for some parts of China...migrating for work. Its not a matter of nationalism but a matter of getting a head in life if you are not in the middle/upper class. Staying in US forever may be a poor life choice at this point though
Although you got paid over $3000 for being a cook helper but it is a 6 days a week and 12 hours a day job of nonstop. It only works if you are a hard worker and willing to endure hardship. Most of recent illegal immigrants from China are middle age males that can't endure hardship and have restored toward extortion against Chinese restaurant owners in order to make a living or obtain legal status.

Factory jobs in the US are even more problematic. As most of factory jobs are hired by contractors not the factory or company themselves. That means you would usually end up not getting paid as promised and there aren't much you can do about it.

Most of Douyin illegal immigrants are fool. They don't know what they are getting into before coming to the US. They are too brainwashed to understand what true hardship is and most of them would end up regretting. Only those Chinese farmers or hard labors or at least young and hardworking enough can thrive in the US as illegal immigrants.
 

Biscuits

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This comment always get repeated but I don't see why it is not plausible. Labor cost is now inflated in the US and its easy to get paid 15-20 hr in californa /ny ... thats 35k a year vs 3$ a hour at the fox-con factory. Either way, your kinda enslave by your job. After 5 years, go back to China and buy yourself a condo in a was of Yuan and start a buisness. It's a very Chinese thing to do for some parts of China...migrating for work. Its not a matter of nationalism but a matter of getting a head in life if you are not in the middle/upper class. Staying in US forever may be a poor life choice at this point though
Are you serious? Have you actually seen any of these phantom "immigrants"? One would believe that given how nationalist the American government is, they would like nothing better but to put them all in concentration camps and then publicly send them back to China... That is if such people even existed to begin with, which is of course a big issue, because you cannot round up and ship fictional humans!

You make more selling shawarma in a bottom tier Chinese city than you'd make doing some convoluted land route to the US which would by itself cost a lot in flight/smuggling costs and then work an US shit tier job which pays similar or 1-2$ an hour better than equivalent shit tier jobs in China, compounded with the fact it is so easy for Chinese to fly directly into the US and then get legit jobs in Asian restaurants, if they really are interested.
 

Biscuits

Colonel
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Although you got paid over $3000 for being a cook helper but it is a 6 days a week and 12 hours a day job of nonstop. It only works if you are a hard worker and willing to endure hardship. Most of recent illegal immigrants from China are middle age males that can't endure hardship and have restored toward extortion against Chinese restaurant owners in order to make a living or obtain legal status.

Factory jobs in the US are even more problematic. As most of factory jobs are hired by contractors not the factory or company themselves. That means you would usually end up not getting paid as promised and there aren't much you can do about it.

Most of Douyin illegal immigrants are fool. They don't know what they are getting into before coming to the US. They are too brainwashed to understand what true hardship is and most of them would end up regretting. Only those Chinese farmers or hard labors or at least young and hardworking enough can thrive in the US as illegal immigrants.
It's hard to characterize a group as "they" when the group doesn't even exist to begin with.

"they" are an amorphous entity that exists only on a few choice photos of vaguely Asian people on hiking trails shown by US state media occasionally. Where "they" then end up and why the US doesn't deport them, or indeed even what they do inside the US is then unknown.

You can look as hard as you want and you'll probably not find any unifying characteristics within this "group".
 
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