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KYli

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More fighting with the last suckers from other countries so the American's hegemony can be prolonged.
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Former imperial and colonial power German now a vassal of the US proclaimed that the NATO is for peace. Maybe Ursula von der Leyen has forgotten how many unjust wars started by the Western powers in the last century let alone the last few centuries.
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Sardaukar20

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Some people often wonder, is India really run by super competent technocrats, and just held back by the legacy of colonialism? Maybe they're just playing dumb for the votes and for global businesses? Do they actually have a plan and aren't the delusional buffoons they appear to be?

Then you have things like this which remove all doubt.
It is exactly this Indian attitude that keeps the nation underdeveloped. Too many announcements, too much talking, too much pre-celebrating, and too little actual work done.

Lets say that the West gives India 7nm chip technology today. I believe that India will still continue producing 7nm chips 10 years later. Because India does not have foundational semiconductor technology. The oligarchs are gonna control the biggest semicon foundries anyway, and they will care so much more about profits than innovation. Why care about R&D when India assumes it could con the West of next technology?

India just wants a chip industry to poke China in the eye. And then what? Export only? India has no tech industry that is comparable to anything in East Asia. Where are the Indian laptop makers, smartphone makers, IOT makers, drone makers, server makers, etc? If they even exist, are they competitive globally? How many of the top international electronics companies are producing their stuff in India? Apple sure comes to mind, but their India adventure is not going to plan.

India has no comprehensive national industrial plan. Everything it does is about screwing China. India is so busy announcing its semiconductor project, make in India, Modi's supapowa vision, blah x 3. But what is being done on the ground to setup India for that future supadupa development? Education is going down, R&D budget is pitiful, and foreign firms are leaving India as fast as they are coming in.

The Kaveri engine program summarizes how well India develops high technology. Years back, Indians were celebrating it, and laughing at the Chinese WS engine development. Today, the Kaveri engine program is a confirmed failure. Now the Indians have conveniently forgotten about it. They are instead celebrating their supposedly upcoming "Make in India" GE F404 engine. An engine that they can never produce without GE's support. While China is on its way to introducing it's own upcoming WS-15 engine. This is the difference between India and China.
 

coolgod

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More fighting with the last suckers from other countries so the American's hegemony can be prolonged.
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Former imperial and colonial power German now a vassal of the US proclaimed that the NATO is for peace. Maybe Ursula von der Leyen has forgotten how many unjust wars started by the Western powers in the last century let alone the last few centuries.
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I hope this ban will actually be temporary, otherwise it would severely handicap China's dominant drone industry and future developments. China should keep the leader position on the consumer and industry side for as long as possible.

It is exactly this Indian attitude that keeps the nation underdeveloped. Too many announcements, too much talking, too much pre-celebrating, and too little actual work done.

Lets say that the West gives India 7nm chip technology today. I believe that India will still continue producing 7nm chips 10 years later. Because India does not have foundational semiconductor technology. The oligarchs are gonna control the biggest semicon foundries anyway, and they will care so much more about profits than innovation. Why care about R&D when India assumes it could con the West of next technology?

India just wants a chip industry to poke China in the eye. And then what? Export only? India has no tech industry that is comparable to anything in East Asia. Where are the Indian laptop makers, smartphone makers, IOT makers, drone makers, server makers, etc? If they even exist, are they competitive globally? How many of the top international electronics companies are producing their stuff in India? Apple sure comes to mind, but their India adventure is not going to plan.

India has no comprehensive national industrial plan. Everything it does is about screwing China. India is so busy announcing its semiconductor project, make in India, Modi's supapowa vision, blah x 3. But what is being done on the ground to setup India for that future supadupa development? Education is going down, R&D budget is pitiful, and foreign firms are leaving India as fast as they are coming in.

The Kaveri engine program summarizes how well India develops high technology. Years back, Indians were celebrating it, and laughing at the Chinese WS engine development. Today, the Kaveri engine program is a confirmed failure. Now the Indians have conveniently forgotten about it. They are instead celebrating their supposedly upcoming "Make in India" GE F404 engine. An engine that they can never produce without GE's support. While China is on its way to introducing it's own upcoming WS-15 engine. This is the difference between India and China.

I think we should encourage India to invest in expensive R&D projects like semiconductor fabs, space programs, quantum computers, foundational AI models, etc. If they succeed it will be a win for India and a win for mankind. If they don't succeed, they will learn a painful lesson in how capitalism works.
 
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I don't have any economic policies but China, China, and China would be my slogan and Rednecks would love it.
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Although, I never consumed dog meat or have any plan to do so. The commentaries are as racist as you can get.
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It shouldn't even be an issue. If India does become the global superpower steakhouses will be seen as uncivilized, would Anglos be willing to stomach that reality? The dogs are not treated well? Yeah, it sucks but have you seen how the cows and pigs that end up in developed world supermarkets are treated for that matter and does anyone do a thing about it? That's just life, perhaps only a tiny subset of Chinese eat dogs nowadays, but to me meat is meat so who gives a shit?
 

FriedButter

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I hope this ban will actually be temporary, otherwise it would severely handicap China's dominant drone industry and future developments. China should keep the leader position on the consumer and industry side for as long as possible.

Beside consumer drones restrictions, I don’t see why drone engines or anti-drone systems should be exported to western countries to use against China.

The restrictions on equipment including some drone engines, lasers, communication equipment and anti-drone systems would take effect on Sept. 1, the commerce ministry said.
Restrictions will apply to drones that can fly beyond the natural sight distance of operators or stay aloft more than 30 minutes, have attachments that can throw objects and weigh more than seven kilograms (15½ pounds), according to the ministry.
 

Sardaukar20

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I think we should encourage India to invest in expensive R&D projects like semiconductor fabs, space programs, quantum computers, foundational AI models, etc. If they succeed it will be a win for India and a win for mankind. If they don't succeed, they will learn a painful lesson in how capitalism works.
India doesn't need any encouragement at all. India will develop according to its envy of China. But the biggest irony today, is that the biggest impediment to India's development is actually India itself. The Indian people deserve better off course, but they need to reform themselves first into a serious people. This will be impossible with the current trajectory of India and its BJP leadership.
 

KYli

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Nikki Haley is definitely everyone worst nightmare. Xi would just treats Nikki as how he treated Trudeau as amateur that pretended to be tough.
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FIRST ON FOX: Republican 2024 presidential hopeful
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is expanding her plan to combat the threat from communist China -- including a pledge to roll back Biden-era green energy mandates, which she says are a giveaway to Beijing.

Haley has called for years for the U.S. to be more aggressive in combating the threat from Beijing and in June called for a fundamental change in the U.S. outlook to the threat from the East.

On Monday, her campaign is announcing the expansion of that strategy both in terms of
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and changing policies she believes are aiding the geopolitical foe.

At the top of the list is a call to end green energy mandates implemented by the Biden administration to transition off from fossil fuels and
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, which Haley and other critics argue are dominated by China and Chinese companies.


If elected president, Haley would end the mandates, as well as related subsidies. She also calls for a ban on states and cities from using federal taxpayer money to purchase Chinese tech -- including drones used by police and emergency services, which are often made in China. She would also
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, while replacing Chinese tech with that made in the U.S.


A Haley administration would also combat Chinese involvement in the U.S. fentanyl crisis -- illicit fentanyl is made in Mexico using Chinese precursors and moved across the border. DHS Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas recently said China
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for its role in the crisis.

Specifically, she would block Chinese instant messaging and payment apps used between Chinese and Mexican criminals and end loopholes in U.S. customs rules.

Meanwhile, in the wake of the Chinese balloon fiasco -- in which the Chinese sent a surveillance balloon across the U.S. before it was eventually shot down by the administration -- Haley is calling for the U.S. to pull out of the Scientific and Technological Cooperation. The partnership will soon expire, but could be renewed by the administration. Haley’s campaign cites a 2018 project that cooperated on launching weather balloons as an example of how the collaboration could be used by the Chinese.

Haley’s expanded plan also calls for anti-China sanctions to remain in place, citing reported delays by the Biden administration on human rights-related sanctions and a potential deal regarding fentanyl that would see sanctions lifted. Haley’s plan rules out any such softening.

"Americans want a president who will lead from a position of strength—not weakness," campaign spokesman Ken Farnaso told Fox News Digital. "Nikki Haley is the strongest and most vocal candidate in this race confronting Beijing’s many crimes and atrocities. She is China’s worst nightmare, and Xi Jinping knows it."

The plan is in line with Haley’s hawkish stance toward Beijing. Her June speech called for increased military ties with regional allies including Japan and South Korea, greater assistance to Taiwan as well as blocking exports to China, a ban on Chinese lobbying in the U.S. and a revocation of normal trade relations if the fentanyl crisis continues.

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taken aim at the administration for allegedly being too soft on China, and last week passed a bill that would block DHS from using drones at the southern border made in China.

Haley had tackled China on the world stage when she served as U.N. ambassador during the Trump administration. Since then, she has remained outspoken on China, calling for the U.S. to ban TikTok and to boycott the Olympics in Beijing, while blasting corporations who do business with Chinese for hypocrisy on their stances on human rights.
 
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