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gelgoog

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What's with the US air force attracting all the lunatics? Though I suppose there is something to be said about the popular rhetoric even ordinary people like to throw around these days, if the tweet below is any indication. Jingoistic chest thumping seems to be in vogue, now.
What is really retarded is that they put a picture of the MiG-31 as an example of what they call a paper tiger and "cloned technology".

The MiG-31 was the first fighter in the world with a phased array radar to enter service i.e. Zaslon. It was the first Soviet aircraft with good look down/shoot down capability meant to be able to distinguish relatively low signature cruise missiles traveling at low altitudes in the middle of the clutter and intercept them. The MiG-31 has a digital datalink where it can share its radar picture and targeting with other aircraft. It is basically an airborne node of the Soviet GCI air defense network. A force multiplier which could enable other aircraft like the Su-27 and MiG-29 to be guided to targets even if they were outside the range of the ground based network. At that time no Western fighter aircraft had proper datalink capability of such type. Then there is the R-33 missile. A long range, semi active guided missile, which in the MiG-31 is also capable of engaging multiple targets simultaneously. The MiG-31 basically corrected all the flaws in the MiG-25 and was leading edge when it came out.

With electronics modernizations of the aircraft and missile, as the MiG-31BM, the aircraft did the longest range shoot down ever of an aircraft in this conflict with Ukraine like some four decades after it originally came out into service.

Also, unlike with the MiG-25, the speed in the MiG-31 was limited to Mach 2.8 not because of the engines, but because the canopy would melt and had to be replaced. In the MiG-31BM they changed the canopy material. And it is claimed this increase the max rated operational speed of the aircraft. Likely to actual Mach 3.

These guys were probably intending to mock the MiG-25 but put a picture of the MiG-31 by mistake. It is true that the MiG-25 was developed in a crash program with components they had around. Like the radar on the Tu-128, and an engine taken out of a drone aircraft. But it was still capable, with the huge R-40 air to air missile, of shooting down US aircraft in Iraq over two decades after it entered service.
 
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Aniah

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What is really retarded is that they put a picture of the MiG-31 as an example of what they call a paper tiger and "cloned technology".

The MiG-31 was the first fighter in the world with a phased array radar to enter service i.e. Zaslon. It was the first Soviet aircraft with good look down/shoot down capability meant to be able to distinguish relatively low signature cruise missiles traveling at low altitudes in the middle of the clutter and intercept them. The MiG-31 has a digital datalink where it can share its radar picture and targeting with other aircraft. It is basically an airborne node of the Soviet GCI air defense network. A force multiplier which could enable other aircraft like the Su-27 and MiG-29 to be guided to targets even if they were outside the range of the ground based network. At that time no Western fighter aircraft had proper datalink capability of such type. Then there is the R-33 missile. A long range, semi active guided missile, which in the MiG-31 is also capable of engaging multiple targets simultaneously. The MiG-31 basically corrected all the flaws in the MiG-25 and was leading edge when it came out.

With electronics modernizations of the aircraft and missile, as the MiG-31BM, the aircraft did the longest range shoot down ever of an aircraft in this conflict with Ukraine like some four decades after it originally came out into service.

Also, unlike with the MiG-25, the speed in the MiG-31 was limited to Mach 2.8 not because of the engines, but because the canopy would melt and had to be replaced. In the MiG-31BM they changed the canopy material. And it is claimed this increase the max rated operational speed of the aircraft. Likely to actual Mach 3.

These guys were probably intending to mock the MiG-25 but put a picture of the MiG-31 by mistake. It is true that the MiG-25 was developed in a crash program with components they had around. Like the radar on the Tu-128, and an engine taken out of a drone aircraft. But it was still capable, with the huge R-40 air to air missile, of shooting down US aircraft in Iraq over two decades after it entered service.
It's 4chan and twitter, where all the brain-dead idiots come together to form one incoherent brain cell. I would rather talk to a brick wall than try to put some sense to those people. At least the brick wall is a good listener.
 

emblem21

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What on earth is the point of the EU at this point, what do they honestly offer the world at this point other then constantly whining about values that they quite frankly fail to implement because they think they are special like the USA when even Africa really wants the lot of these colonial fu@ks to GTFO of their countries because screw you we are tired of the double standard. Seriously, the world owes the EU nothing but a very heavy ass kicking for all the genocide these EU trash has yet to apologies for, especially Brussels and what they did to Patrice Lumumba. And no giving back his golden teeth to his family is simply no where near enough, heads should have been offered as an extreme minimum. Otherwise Western Europe should simply stop its human rights posturing and suffer an American style mad max already within the next few years because the likes of Ursula Von De Layan doesn’t know when to STFU about these so called values whilst Olaf happily burns every bridge he could while pretending everything is ok when it simply isn’t
 

LawLeadsToPeace

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What's with the US air force attracting all the lunatics? Though I suppose there is something to be said about the popular rhetoric even ordinary people like to throw around these days, if the tweet below is any indication. Jingoistic chest thumping seems to be in vogue, now.

Military personal are always this motivated. If they aren’t, they shouldn’t be in the military since, at the end of the day, they have to pay with their lives if necessary to accomplish the mission. This type of motivation is what drives military personal to fight and train harder and to take risky missions that ordinary people like you and I would balk at. The Chinese military are the same, but they are much more strict (and rightfully so) about memos like these from coming out.
 

emblem21

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Military personal are always this motivated. If they aren’t, they shouldn’t be in the military since, at the end of the day, they have to pay with their lives if necessary to accomplish the mission. This type of motivation is what drives military personal to fight and train harder and to take risky missions that ordinary people like you and I would balk at. The Chinese military are the same, but they are much more strict (and rightfully so) about memos like these from coming out.
Motivated because they haven’t taken any real casualties for the last how many decades. But once they start challenging an actual air defence along with an Air Force that is well equipped with all the necessary advantages, expect this motivation to being a lot more limited and perhaps these racist views to being a lot more limited. I get the feeling that these views are mostly due to a false sense of security that once’s striped away could easily send moral into the collective toilet
 

LawLeadsToPeace

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Motivated because they haven’t taken any real casualties for the last how many decades. But once they start challenging an actual air defence along with an Air Force that is well equipped with all the necessary advantages, expect this motivation to being a lot more limited and perhaps these racist views to being a lot more limited. I get the feeling that these views are mostly due to a false sense of security that once’s striped away could easily send moral into the collective toilet
Nope. Based on what I have read and heard from actual US military veterans and personal and past, but now deleted, posts and the livestream from @Patchwork_Chimera who quite literally talked about this issue, unlike their political counterparts, the US military is taking the Chinese extremely seriously. Aside from that, in regards to motivation, motivation and espirit de corps are huge morale multipliers because they drive military personal to do courageous and/or sometimes brutal things to their enemies. For example, the PLA's conflicts in Korea and Vietnam, and the second Sino- Japanese war all showed how motivation and spirit maintained unit cohesion and allowed them to continue to stay in the fight.
 

BoraTas

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Does Italy even matter on the world stage today? Does Italy matter to China? Is Italy's role in BRI even important if France joins BRI this year?

Some years ago Italy's opinion still carried weight, today it is the figurehead of the dying western Europe.
Italy actually does matter but there is really nothing China can do if they want to cool down relations. It was done at the American request. Usual smoking gun evidence for that is a false justification. Their minister blamed BRI for the Italian trade deficit with China, which can't be true because BRI is no trade deal.

What China finding out is most of the developed which are aligned with the USA are actually complicit with Pax Americana. China needs a multi-decade plan to fracture and weaken this group.

1- Needs to decrease exposure slowly, only granting market access to friends
2- Cooperation with the developing world must be expanded, including political ties. This is not emotional third-worldism. These countries already make up half of Chinese trade and they are growing faster than the West, especially non-US West. "Friend-shoring" is a delusion.
3- Cultural exports. Over decades their effect can win friends.
 
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