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victoon

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George Yeo is always such an insightful and elegent speaker. It seems to me the Finns are much more understanding of China than other victims of the soviet.
I already knew what Wang Yi said about China supported German unification, much of it probably because of principle. But it's today I realized that this support came against Russian interests of the time. Russia's reluctantly agreeing to German unification and entrance into NATO laid the ground work for all the NATO expansion Russia is dealing with today.
 

gelgoog

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They're lashing out because China is destroying their economy. Almost every product that South Korean economy is dependent on, China is doing better and cheaper.
No kidding. Batteries? Screens? Smartphones? Consumer electronics? Cars? Ships? You name it, you got it.
There is little that South Korea produces that China does not do as well.

Washington is finally pushing for the Korean model now after realizing the war is unwinnable. No wonder Blinken is in a rush to visit China.
The US State Department is retarded. Right before the war started Russia asked for negotiations with the US on the rollback of NATO entirely to 1991 borders. That is as maximalist as you can get. And when the invasion of Ukraine started, Putin said the demilitarization of Ukraine is an objective of the SMO. There will be no South Korean scenario. At best there will be a sort of Finlandization of Ukraine. If not, the Russians will just continue to bomb them. The Russians can continue this situation indefinitely just like Israel does to its neighbors in the Middle East.

I already knew what Wang Yi said about China supported German unification, much of it probably because of principle. But it's today I realized that this support came against Russian interests of the time. Russia's reluctantly agreeing to German unification and entrance into NATO laid the ground work for all the NATO expansion Russia is dealing with today.
The Soviet leaders were idiots who gave up on an empire to enrich themselves at the cost of the general population. As for German reunification, the first Soviet leader to propose it was Stalin. The condition was that the reunified Germany was supposed to be a neutral country. Not in NATO. It was the US which refused this condition. After Stalin died, Beria proposed the same thing, and was rebuked again.
 

pmc

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No kidding. Batteries? Screens? Smartphones? Consumer electronics? Cars? Ships? You name it, you got it.
There is little that South Korea produces that China does not do as well.
Korea and Japan are in driving seat as long they can conquer North American market. this alone gives them economy of scale to sell in other regions.
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The Soviet leaders were idiots who gave up on an empire to enrich themselves at the cost of the general population. As for German reunification, the first Soviet leader to propose it was Stalin. The condition was that the reunified Germany was supposed to be a neutral country. Not in NATO. It was the US which refused this condition. After Stalin died, Beria proposed the same thing, and was rebuked again.
Eastern Europe majority of Soviet existence has higher standard of living. so getting rid of it is right decision. you never waste money and manpower on occupying Germany rather cut its external enablers. Think harder you will get answer.
He is certainly not worried about East Europeans.


 

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Honduras requests entry to BRICS-led development bank on China trip​

TEGUCIGALPA, June 9 (Reuters) - Honduras President Xiomara Castro formally requested the country's admission to the BRICS-led New Development Bank (NDB) in a meeting with the bank's president, Dilma Rousseff, Castro's office said in a tweet late Friday.
 

emblem21

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To think. All it took was for the Soviet trained to run out and the NATO trained to join the fight.
Funny irony here, if Germany had been about to ally with Russia in ww1, WW2 and now, they would have won in Europe and basically be on the right side of history. Every time they try to bet against Russia, they always lose. Maybe if they had an anti American leader, they would’ve had more success so if they wish to have a future, get rid of every single USA backed crony in the German government to start
 

baykalov

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I don't know if it's more depressing that a Colonel could write this or that people really believe it. The delusion och hubris here are unbearable. Watching videos of Leo 2s and Bradleys turned into useless smoking heaps gives me less confidence that the Challengers will achieve anything.

I only post this article to show the apparent mind set of some in the NATO command. I do wonder if the author has been following recent events.

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As a former tank commander, I can say one thing for certain: Putin’s demoralised conscripts are utterly unprepared for the shock action now hitting their lines. Ukrainian armoured formations are beginning to meet Russian forces in battle, and they are going to pulverise Russia’s defensive lines. I am confident for one simple reason: Ukraine will follow the Western ideology of manoeuvre warfare in a combined arms context, while the Russians will follow Soviet doctrine, relying on attrition and numbers. The Russians will find that the armour of Western tanks is far more resilient than flesh and bone, they will die in great numbers, and they will lose.

The core idea of manoeuvre warfare is mission command. Commanders at all levels understand the top-level end state, and are given the flexibility to conduct the battle as they see fit to achieve victory. The Ukrainians are well-versed in this style of warfare, which allows them to be agile and adapt their plan to the situation on the battlefield as it unfolds and changes. The Russians do not follow this doctrine. They are given strict roles in the execution of plans drawn up at the top, and cannot change them even when things are going badly wrong. This has been made evident time and time again in Ukraine, where Moscow’s tanks have all too often been blown to pieces without firing a round.

On top of this, we can add the simple fact that Kyiv’s forces have proved far superior in their adoption of combined arms warfare. This means using tanks, infantry, artillery and air power in harmony to achieve their objectives. Each element brings its own capabilities, and together they are far greater than the sum of their parts. The effect is devastating. Nearly 4,000 Russian tanks have been destroyed because they were not properly protected by infantry and air defence. Tens of thousands of Russian soldiers have died because they were not properly supported by artillery and tanks.

Getting this form of warfare right takes intelligence and training. You need the right equipment, and effective doctrine. The Ukrainians have this. I estimate that their tank brigades have had around eight weeks to perfect combined arms warfare, around the same time I would have allocated to train the Royal Tank Regiment under my command to be an effective combined arms fighting force. And they certainly have the right equipment. The Challenger and Leopard tanks leading the spearhead vastly outmatch what’s left of Russia’s heavy armour, while sophisticated precision artillery is providing withering fire for the advance.

Conversely, Russian recruits appear to be given a few days of training, a little ammunition and are then thrown into the meat-grinder with a life expectancy surely measured in days. They might as well be gunning them down on the training fields; it would be faster, cheaper and about as combat effective.

There will certainly be no rescue from the air. The Russian air force should be a massive operational threat, but it seems that its pilots have opted to hide in the confines of the officers’ mess rather than face the excellent Ukrainian air defences. Sometimes, cowardice is the most sensible option.

The final and perhaps the most important element of an effective armoured fighting force is morale. The Ukrainians have this in spades. The Russian conscripts have virtually none. From personal experience, having fought a number of battles, I know you need to really want to get out of the trench to fight the enemy. It’s certainly not an easy or natural act.

With Ukrainian canniness, Western intelligence and equipment and a smattering of good fortune, I expect what’s left of the Russian army to be nothing more than a speed bump on the way to liberating Crimea, pushing to the Russian border and chucking Putin’s war criminals out of Ukraine once and for all.

Much like Adolf Hitler at the end of his war, Putin appears to be holed up in his bunker, being fed lies, making the wrong decisions while the sharks circle. What’s unfolding in Ukraine now could go down in history as one of the great tank actions, alongside Cambrai, Kursk and the Arras counterattack. It will certainly go down as the end of Moscow’s illegal invasion – and perhaps the beginning of the end of Putin.

Colonel Hamish de Bretton-Gordon is former Commanding Officer of the 1st Royal Tank Regiment
 

Tootensky

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I don't know if it's more depressing that a Colonel could write this or that people really believe it. The delusion och hubris here are unbearable. Watching videos of Leo 2s and Bradleys turned into useless smoking heaps gives me less confidence that the Challengers will achieve anything.

I only post this article to show the apparent mind set of some in the NATO command. I do wonder if the author has been following recent events.

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Like countless British officers before him, who were going to "bring the Keiser to heel" and "be back Home by Christmas" in "the War to end all wars", I believe even after leaving the service, they are morally obligated to be bombastic, pompous fops.
 

Sardaukar20

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Some have gone extreme like comedian Jocelyn Chia poo pooing Malaysia in her "joke".

Malaysians were predictably outraged. The Singapore government officially apologized to Malaysia. But Jocelyn Chia is actually a US citizen, no longer a Singapore citizen. So, its actually a US citizen creating a storm between Singapore and Malaysia.
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BTW Jocelyn, the American remains unrepentant. Typical American comedian.
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Sardaukar20

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I don't know if it's more depressing that a Colonel could write this or that people really believe it. The delusion och hubris here are unbearable. Watching videos of Leo 2s and Bradleys turned into useless smoking heaps gives me less confidence that the Challengers will achieve anything.

I only post this article to show the apparent mind set of some in the NATO command. I do wonder if the author has been following recent events.

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