Miscellaneous News

Nobonita Barua

Senior Member
Registered Member
In a practical sense for China, a destabilized Turkey will be a boon for China as Erdogan will push for more militarism which will require attention from the EU and maybe even the US. I don't see the pros outweighing the cons bolstering an anti-China country.
Bad suggestion. The opposite one can be a strong counter-weight to other Euros.
 

j17wang

Senior Member
Registered Member
Agree with almost everything except slight disagreement here.
I don't think most arabs really care about Xinjiang.
Heck, i wonder how many even heard the name except probably speeches :rolleyes:

Talking to even some pakistani's, they do care, but not to the extent that they want to jeopardize relations. Its like Canadians also care that the US doesn't have as many freedoms like gay marriage/access to abortion but it doesn't get bubbled up into the actual relationship (except with trade). Remember, vast majority of muslims are not radical islamists, and they certainly understand the need to stamp out religious extremism. Pakistan conducts operations daily in FATA against radical islamists.

In a practical sense for China, a destabilized Turkey will be a boon for China as Erdogan will push for more militarism which will require attention from the EU and maybe even the US. I don't see the pros outweighing the cons bolstering an anti-China country.

Correct, a destabilized turkey would require attention from EU and US, but I wouldnt characterize Turkey as a broadly anti-china country. It has its own independent foreign policy, which china must also respect. There will be disagreements, but should not prevent china and turkey from working together. China's foreign policy cant rely on just countries going against each other, but also building relationships with them as well.
 

Nobonita Barua

Senior Member
Registered Member
Talking to even some pakistani's, they do care, but not to the extent that they want to jeopardize relations. Its like Canadians also care that the US doesn't have as many freedoms like gay marriage/access to abortion but it doesn't get bubbled up into the actual relationship (except with trade). Remember, vast majority of muslims are not radical islamists, and they certainly understand the need to stamp out religious extremism. Pakistan conducts operations daily in FATA against radical islamists.
I don't think that's the case. I would say words used here are bit misplaced.
Again, i am not from familiar with the country you have mentioned above. But living as a minority in a different religion majority country, i can tell you the experience. What you said here is more of a western made up version. The reality is bit more complex.
Now if i go into explaining, that will take an essay. Just to give an example, we had holy artesan bakery incident just a couple of years ago. We are familiar with those first hand.
 

Tyler

Captain
Registered Member
If you're talking about China helping Turkey, why should they? Their president has spoken publicly criticizing China on Xinjiang and their population are pretty racist towards Chinese people judging by their netizens so their elected politicians will continue being negative towards China.

If you want to help them on a practical sense in some vain attempt at pushing them away from the west and towards China, there is no way Turkey will give up NATO to become a Chinese vassal any time this century.
A Chinese naval task force should be sent to Turkey for some joint exercises and to show China's military might. Sometimes you have to show your muscles at the right time.
 
Top