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Bellum_Romanum

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It's literally the same with some added modifications that's still equally retarded.
  • White Power!!
  • White People are super duper Smart, progenitor of every inventions
  • Jews control the banks, media, businesses
  • Jews are stupid and dumb
  • Blacks are prone to violence because they're violent people and race
  • Blacks have the lowest I.Q. of all race groups
  • America is being invaded from within through immigration
  • White people are being GENOCIDED and the government is complicit in this endeavor.
  • I am retarded and proud of it.
 

Abominable

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  • White Power!!
  • White People are super duper Smart, progenitor of every inventions
  • Jews control the banks, media, businesses
  • Jews are stupid and dumb
  • Blacks are prone to violence because they're violent people and race
  • Blacks have the lowest I.Q. of all race groups
  • America is being invaded from within through immigration
  • White people are being GENOCIDED and the government is complicit in this endeavor.
  • I am retarded and proud of it.
Take out the part about Jews and that's basically Trump's manifesto.
 

Abominable

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Turkey has zero ability to get anything from NATO with blackmail. I think the west have praised Turkey too much and it's gotten to his head. What does he think will happen? It will only end badly for Turkey.

The only leverage he had was to embarrass them publically and he's used that up now. Maybe now they'll stop pretending that the toy drone they're assembling is as good as they're claiming?
 

NiuBiDaRen

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Belgrade will stick to its policy of not imposing restrictions on Moscow, Aleksandar Vucic vows.

Despite suffering “enormous damage,” Belgrade will fight to maintain its policy of not joining the drastic international sanctions introduced against Moscow over the conflict in Ukraine, Serbian President Aleksandar Vucic has said.


Goddamn. He's got some elephant testicles
 

BoraTas

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Turkey has zero ability to get anything from NATO with blackmail. I think the west have praised Turkey too much and it's gotten to his head. What does he think will happen? It will only end badly for Turkey.

The only leverage he had was to embarrass them publically and he's used that up now. Maybe now they'll stop pretending that the toy drone they're assembling is as good as they're claiming?
I explained this on Quora. NATO requires unanimous approval so a LOT of capability to "blackmail" Finland and Sweden exists. Of course garbage Western MSM talks about all of this as Turkey playing both sides but that is wrong. Turkey has had problems with Sweden and Finland for years. I am copy pasting from my Quora post. I was worried Turkey was just going to let them in without getting anything in return.

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This question became a magnet for weird content on Quora and especially on Twitter. I have to clarify a few things first

1- “Turkey should be kicked out of NATO.”

NATO has no member expulsion mechanism and even if did Turkey wouldn’t be expelled. With its good defense industry, large military, militaristic culture (means an endless supply of men during a war) and very strategic location it is easily one of the five most important members of NATO. Also, it has been a member for 65+ years. I know some jingoistic people especially from some European countries love screaming “kick Turkey out” or “sanction Turkey” on every occasion they get but what I am writing is the reality. The US and UK would laugh at this proposal even if NATO had a member expulsion mechanism.

2- “Turkey can not prevent Finland and Sweden’s NATO accession.”

No. It can. Membership requires unanimous approval. Greece blocked North Macedonia’s accession for 10 years.

After addressing these I can answer the question. I think it won’t but it will require concessions in return. Turkey did a similar thing in 2009 against Anders Fogh Rasmussen’s bid for the position of general secretary. The reason was the same as today. It was his support to the PKK and his general anti-Turkish policies. Turkey stopped vetoing him in return for 3 important missions in NATO.

In international politics everything has a price and the price is determined by the opposing sides' negotiation power. Turkey currently has a lot of negotiating power against Finland and Sweden since it can block their NATO membership. Considering that it has disputes with these two countries it is not going to miss this opportunity to position itself better in the said disputes. No smart country would. Especially Sweden’s open support to PKK, a terrorist organization that is responsible for the deaths of 40000 Turkish citizens since 1980, must be addressed. At least things like these should stop happening.



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FriedButter

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Turkey has zero ability to get anything from NATO with blackmail. I think the west have praised Turkey too much and it's gotten to his head. What does he think will happen? It will only end badly for Turkey.

Do they have an option? IDK what the public opinion is in Turkey but I imagine if Erdogen lets a nation into NATO that is support terrorism in Turkey then it will probably end his political career and party.
 
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