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Bellum_Romanum

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The world owes the western countries more than vice versa. China could use its forex to buy Dollar debts from the rest of the world.

At the end is, whoever has the bigger stick has the say.
In what UNIVERSE does the world owe Western Countries more? And why? Please elaborate on this point so that perhaps you can enlighten people like myself who missed this important point in history.

As for who's got the biggest stick, I say it's the U.S. and Russia in terms of nuclear arsenal. Joseff Borel and the rest of the useless EU excluded.
 

duncanidaho

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In what UNIVERSE does the world owe Western Countries more? And why? Please elaborate on this point so that perhaps you can enlighten people like myself who missed this important point in history.

As for who's got the biggest stick, I say it's the U.S. and Russia in terms of nuclear arsenal. Joseff Borel and the rest of the useless EU excluded.
I'm not clear in my wording. What i mean is owe in term of Dollar (Euro, Yen, Pound) debts.
 

Overbom

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I'm not clear in my wording. What i mean is owe in term of Dollar debts.
When you own the bank $100, its your problem. When you own the bank $3 trillion, its the bank's problem.

In the same way, people with excel sheets think that China holds $3 trillion and that's it can do whatever it wants. However in the real world, Biden can change one entry in the database and make that $3 trillion "money" worthless or toilet paper.

So, China needs to offload these dollars asap. However this also that it has to remove dollar as the reserve currency and it needs to develop its internal market/consumption so that it can generate an even stronger economic gravity pull towards China and the RMB. All these require hard hitting economic reforms, which I am not seeing at the moment. It will take decades for this to happen
 

duncanidaho

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When you own the bank $100, its your problem. When you own the bank $3 trillion, its the bank's problem.

In the same way, people with excel sheets think that China holds $3 trillion and that's it can do whatever it wants. However in the real world, Biden can change one entry in the database and make that $3 trillion "money" worthless or toilet paper.

So, China needs to offload these dollars asap. However this also that it has to remove dollar as the reserve currency and it needs to develop its internal market/consumption so that it can generate an even stronger economic gravity pull towards China and the RMB. All these require hard hitting economic reforms, which I am not seeing at the moment. It will take decades for this to happen

China can buy out with its foreign reseve the Dollar (Euro, Yen, Pound) debts from countries like Brazil, Argentinia etc in exchange of RMB debts. Now these countries have RMB debts instead of Dollar debts.

Whether it works or not depends at the end who has the bigger stick or who has more leverage over the other.
 
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