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AndrewS

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The passenger part is probably not for now, but in the future. Just compare China in the 1980s with Central Asians today, in the near future, when economy boost, there will be increased demand. Even the population could increase in these centers, not necessarily because of birth but because of urbanization naturally following industrialization. Example, about half of Beijing's population is not Beijing residents today, the figure was even higher 5 years ago, but in the 1980s the figure is near zero.

Look at the existing populations of the cities and urbanisation levels along the Silk Road-Urumqi routes.
They are not going to become megacities which justify a HSR line.

For example, Nur Sultan has a population of only 1million

The freight part. Even though you acknowledge the land route as useful, but you are still arguing in favor for seaport. I think you missed the key point. How would you transport goods manufactured in Urumqi to Almaty (for example)? Are you suggesting to go first to the nearest seaport in Tianjin 2500km (straight) away, then to Karachi port 10000km by sea, then through railroad for another 2500km? You are taking almost 5000km railroad plus 10000km sea route for 100,000 containers to travel instead of the same containers going about 900km on railroad to save money? The bottom line is that sea route is not cheap for inland countries.

For Central Asia, I think it's obvious you have to use a land route.
My point is that seaborne trade is far greater and important than the overland railways through Central Asia.

Remember that Almaty only has a population of 2 million.
 
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Overbom

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The EU and many other European institutions have been infiltrated by de-facto US agents. It should surprise no one anymore that the EU and many European nations act as extension of the Neocon/Neolib US.
Except for the EU Parliament thing. The biggest mistake the EU did was expanding into Eastern Europe. They are now too inflexible and too big in order to make quick and comprehensive decisions/reforms. Plus they fell into US' trap because the US can play the Russia card and make the whole EE their puppets for "protecting" them against Russia.

EU, a good idea, hijacked by the US and the complicity/idiocy of EU politicians
 

BoraTas

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Wow they are going to use the name "Taiwan".

US propaganda is unparalleled inside the EU. Dumb Europeans dont even realise that they are being played around.
The EU parliament members are just getting a reality check on two fronts. The first one is they can not arbitrarily sanction the world largest trader and expect to be employed afterward, and they are not parliament members of a sovereign state.
 

Overbom

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The EU parliament members are just getting a reality check on two fronts. The first one is they can not arbitrarily sanction the world largest trader and expect to be employed afterward, and they are not parliament members of a sovereign state.
EU Parliament members are dumb as rocks. Each member state's ruling party is basically shipping their idiot/political dangerous members to the EU Parliament in order to get rid of them.

Now imagine what happens when all the idiots from all over the EU are gathered in a single institution..
 

taxiya

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Look at the existing populations of the cities and urbanisation levels along the Silk Road-Urumqi routes.
They are not going to become megacities which justify a HSR line.

For example, Nur Sultan has a population of only 1million



For Central Asia, I think it's obvious you have to use a land route.
My point is that seaborne trade is far greater and important than the overland railways through Central Asia.

Remember that Almaty only has a population of 2 million.
"far greater and important" for whom and for what purpose?

Let me clarify myself again so we are talking about the same subject. My central point in the past number of replies is that the land section of BRI is NOT just meant for Europe but to develop China's western region through connecting Central Asia and Western Asia and Russia.

Staying within the premises, seaborne route does not have any advantage.

The highlighted text indicate that you are still thinking that Central Asia is just a passage serving Europe from China. This is a point that I have been repeatedly object, because China sees Central Asia as a new future not just a passage.

You may keep your opinion, but that seems to me is not what China intended for BRI.
 

2handedswordsman

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Except for the EU Parliament thing. The biggest mistake the EU did was expanding into Eastern Europe. They are now too inflexible and too big in order to make quick and comprehensive decisions/reforms. Plus they fell into US' trap because the US can play the Russia card and make the whole EE their puppets for "protecting" them against Russia.

EU, a good idea, hijacked by the US and the complicity/idiocy of EU politicians
EU could have been a good idea but it is not. It is the direct continuation of
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which means it was built in wrong foundations. It's a supernational organization of the European Industrial-Financial capital to serve their own interest coordinated. They just put an excuse of "democracy" but if you dig deeper you will find that some high level legislative organs are not even electable by the people. You may check the books of Varoufakis to have a taste. Sadly, It's a well organised imperialist dictatorship in line with the US capital centres.
 

Overbom

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EU could have been a good idea but it is not. It is the direct continuation of
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which means it was built in wrong foundations. It's a supernational organization of the European Industrial-Financial capital to serve their own interest coordinated. They just put an excuse of "democracy" but if you dig deeper you will find that some high level legislative organs are not even electable by the people. You may check the books of Varoufakis to have a taste. Sadly, It's a well organised imperialist dictatorship in line with the US capital centres.
Definetely with you on that. The EU Parliament has minimal to zero *actual* power. The real power is on the member states.

So the US can make the Parliament pass all the motions they want against China, however the real action depends on the heads of state of every country.

What I am most worried is German Elections. It seems that their stance towards China will turn more hawkish. Add it to France's Little Napoleon delusions and supporting Taiwan on participating on international organisations and it is bad news.

We will see how much their economy will allow them to turn against China.
 
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