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Phead128

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Looks like it started to dawn on the anglos that containing China is impossible and not worth it
I think that's why they dropped recognition of KMT ROC in favor of CCP PRC in 1970's after decades of isolating and containing China right?

It's wayyyyyyy past time containing China. As Nixon said, a 1 billion people under decent leadership can run the world. It cannot be contained. Even the US/EU Arms Embargo barely dent China's military modernization, in fact accelerated and China overcame it with time. The Semiconductor embargo will only accelerate indigenization as well. I feel China is just a convenient punching bag for the military-industrial complex who bribes warmongers in elite circles for more funding. The average American don't give a shit.
 

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Looks like it started to dawn on the anglos that containing China is impossible and not worth it
The problem with starting wars is that it's not up to you to call it quits; China is not going to allow the anglos to get away with the shit of the past decade without some sort of recompense or retribution.
 

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I think that's why they dropped recognition of KMT ROC in favor of CCP PRC in 1970's after decades of isolating and containing China right?

It's wayyyyyyy past time containing China. As Nixon said, a 1 billion people under decent leadership can run the world. It cannot be contained. Even the US/EU Arms Embargo barely dent China's military modernization, in fact accelerated and China overcame it with time. The Semiconductor embargo will only accelerate indigenization as well. I feel China is just a convenient punching bag for the military-industrial complex who bribes warmongers in elite circles for more funding. The average American don't give a shit.
those MIC bastards better be careful because one day, it will be China hunting them down so that they can finally be put in there places for good. All those who have harmed China in the past are going to really feel it very soon, may China finally give these people the death of a thousand cuts that they have been clamouring for so long. Really, they start fights and if they don’t win, they run away and force everyone else to pick up the pieces, just like right now in Afghanistan. One much wonder what is going to happen if the USA is caught off guard for just a second, lots of nations are just waiting for a chance to get even
 

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I think we know now why the Australian Prime Minister was so defensive about that WuHeQiLin graphic:
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Having the UN indict anglo soldiers, Generals and politicians would be a key indicator of just how far the anglos have fallen, much like feudal lords now having to answer for previous crimes against the people.
 

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Seems the past few years on social media, westerners coping with the rise of China would always salivate at the thought that Vietnam will join the anti-china alliance ...

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For the VCP, disputes over the SCS Islands is an annoyance but foreign sponsored Colored Revolution is terminal cancer.

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"The stupidity and incompetence" displayed over the Afghan withdrawal have once again confirmed that the U.S. elites "don't understand the rest of the world, and aren't fit to govern their own country, let alone the globe," British newspaper The Daily Telegraph said in an opinion article last week.
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windsclouds2030

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This.
Look at Hunter Biden, if the children of the Elites are such degenerates with drug addictions, small wonder the anglos fought so hard to keep A-stan and its drug fields, and why the CIA is the largest drug cartel in the world with its narco-vassals in south america.
And that's not even getting into the pizza gate prince andrew stuff...
South America is supplying the majority of COCAINE. Afghanistan is supplying the majority of HEROIN or OPIUM. CIA along with the British M15/M16 are on the Top of these drugs supply chains. Below the intels are those cartels.

Geopolitics, Profit, and Poppies: How the CIA Turned Afghanistan into a Failed Narco-State

The war in Afghanistan has looked a lot like war on drugs in Latin America and previous colonial campaigns in Asia, with a rapid militarization of the area (2021)

The effect of the US occupation of Afghanistan was to expand drug production to unprecedented new proportions, Afghanistan becoming, in Prof. Alfred McCoy’s estimation, the world’s first true narco-state. McCoy notes that by 2008, opium was responsible for well over half of the country’s GDP. By comparison, even in Colombia’s darkest days, cocaine accounted for only 3% of its GDP.

Prof. Alfred McCoy is the author of “The Politics of Heroin: CIA Complicity in the Global Drug Trade”

Today (June 2021), UN estimates that around 6,300 tons of opium (and rising) is produced yearly, with 224,000 ha — an area almost the size of Rhode Island — planted with poppy fields.

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Whiteout: The CIA, Drugs and the Press

By Alexander Cockburn, Jeffrey St. Clair

On March 16, 1998, the CIA’s Inspector General, Fred Hitz, finally let the cat out of the bag in an aside at a Congressional Hearing. Hitz told the US Reps that the CIA had maintained relationships with companies and individuals the Agency knew to be involved in the drug business. Even more astonishingly, Hitz revealed that back in 1982 the CIA had requested and received from Reagan’s Justice Department clearance not to report any knowledge it might have of drug-dealing by CIA assets.

With these two admissions, Hitz definitively sank decades of CIA denials, many of them under oath to Congress. Hitz’s admissions also made fools of some of the most prominent names in US journalism, and vindicated investigators and critics of the Agency, ranging from Al McCoy to Senator John Kerry.

The involvement of the CIA with drug traffickers is a story that has slouched into the limelight every decade or so since the creation of the Agency. Most recently, in 1996, the San Jose Mercury News published a sensational series on the topic, “Dark Alliance”, and then helped destroy its own reporter, Gary Webb.

In Whiteout, Alexander Cockburn and Jeffrey St. Clair finally put the whole story together from the earliest days, when the CIA’s institutional ancestors, the OSS (Office of Strategic Services) and the Office of Naval Intelligence (ONI), cut a deal with America’s premier gangster and drug trafficker, Lucky Luciano.

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Bellum_Romanum

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I hope America keeps listening to this fella and many other Jai Hinds in their midst within and without. This person's personal dictum of never listening or believing any words from any Pakistani no matter how sound just goes to show why India has failed in Afghanistan and why it must continue to fail for having such an arrogant blinders view on important geopolitical issues such as Afghanistan. This man's dismissive attitude and misplaced genius do have his pupils on this forum, and we know who they are. If this is the kind of genius they have at their venerable policy stable then China need not worry too much.

 

windsclouds2030

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The politics of heroin: CIA complicity in the global drug trade, Afghanistan, Southeast Asia, Central America, Colombia, 2nd Revised Edition (2003)

Authored by Alfred W. McCoy

The first book to prove CIA and U.S. government complicity in global drug trafficking, The Politics of Heroin includes meticulous documentation of dishonesty and dirty dealings at the highest levels from the Cold War until today. Maintaining a global perspective, this groundbreaking study details the mechanics of drug trafficking in Asia, Europe, the Middle East, and South and Central America. New chapters detail U.S. involvement in the narcotics trade in Afghanistan and Pakistan before and after the fall of the Taliban, and how U.S. drug policy in Central America and Colombia has increased the global supply of illicit drugs.

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windsclouds2030

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Professor Alfred W. McCoy: CIA & NARCO

THE POLITICS OF HEROIN: CIA complicity in the global drug trade, Afghanistan, Southeast Asia, Central America, Colombia, 2nd Revised Edition (2003)


Authored by Alfred W. McCoy

Alfred W. McCoy (born in 1945 in Massachusetts) is an American historian and educator. McCoy is currently the Fred Harvey Harrington Professor of History at the University of Wisconsin–Madison. He specializes in the history of the Philippines, foreign policy of the United States, European colonisation of Southeast Asia, illegal drug trade, and Central Intelligence Agency covert operations.

On June 2, 1972, while studying at Yale, McCoy testified before the United States Senate Appropriations Subcommittee on State, Foreign Operations, and Related Programs of which Senator William Proxmire was chairman, and accused American government officials, such as G. McMurtrie Godley and Nelson G. Gross, of covering up drug trafficking in Southeast Asia. Soon after, McCoy reaffirmed these beliefs in a letter to Congressman Les Aspin.

McCoy uncovered drug trafficking methods for heroin and opium throughout Southeast Asia and to American troops stationed there by high-ranking government officials: Commander Ouane Rattikone and General Vang Pao (Laos, prior to the end of Vietnam War, 1975); and President Nguyen Van Thieu and General Ðang Van Quang (South Vietnam). McCoy also cited their ties with the Mafia, namely a visit to Saigon in 1968 by Santo Trafficante Jr. (he was among the most powerful Mafia bosses in the United States, headed the Trafficante crime family and controlled organized criminal operations in Florida and Cuba, which had previously been consolidated from several rival gangs by his father, Santo Trafficante Sr). Senator Proxmire requested additional evidence and documentation to which McCoy responded his forthcoming book on the topic would serve as such. In that same year, McCoy's book, The Politics of Heroin in Southeast Asia (this one may serve as the first edition), was published by Harper and Row. He restated that the Central Intelligence Agency was knowingly involved in the trade of heroin in the Golden Triangle.
 
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