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plawolf

plawolf

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sinophilia said:
You are misunderstanding me. Thought I made it clear I have no sympathy for the Americans or their Anglo relatives.

Seeing civilians die, even if they collaborated for $50 or whatever, still disgusts me, especially when you see how cowardly the Westerners are in leaving those people behind.

Even the collaborators aren’t pro-Western, they just wanted to make some money in what felt like a harmless venture to them. They basically scammed the Americans into giving them money to prop up some fake government and military, and look at the state of the military now, they never really sought to fight for America. They immediately threw in the towel the moment America pulled out.

You are unintentionally promoting Western propaganda by putting any attention/blame on Afghans at this critical moment when the whole world should be focused on the weakness, cowardliness, and sociopathic cruelty of the Americans and their puppet Anglo relatives.

Giving Americans the excuse of saying “SEE!? Our collaborators *ahem* our friends clearly wanted democracy and freedumb but they were too weak and cowardly”. You are supporting these BS excuses even if unintentionally. The ENTIRE blame for all of this including the cruel way they left their collaborators to perform desperate acts by jumping onto the outside of a plane for safety should rest on Americans and their Anglo cousins.

Some poor Afghan shmhck harmlessly taking $50 from an American to say “we luv amarikka!” shouldn’t be blamed. Also the guy laughing probably had no idea it would lead to their deaths. I don’t think you understand how clueless and innocent many of these people are. Many of them laughed when they were told people had landed on the Moon. Most never even heard of America or 9/11 before 2001. Most have never flown on a people, did you think those guys on the landing gear retractor knew they’d be dying? No, completely clueless.

And the Americans couldn’t care less. That’s the knowledge that should be promoted. Not Afghan collaborator weakness as the excuse for American failure.
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When did I ever say I blame the collaborators for the collapse of the western puppet government?

I just said I don’t pity them. I don’t blame them either. I am in fact, entirely indifferent to their plight.

Biden kept bandying about with his 300k trained Afghan national army figure, there would be a similar if not higher number of police and many times more employed as civil servants and in other support roles. All told, millions of Afghans worked for the occupiers. Does it look like millions were at the airport? Have the Taliban been machinegunning former soldiers and civil servants in territory they have taken?

The people who did $50 jobs to survive are not the ones at the airport. The people at the airport for lolz are not the ones clinging into departing aircraft.

While there will undoubtably be a lot of brainwashed idiots who fell for western MSM propaganda at the airport trying to flee when they don’t need to, a lot, and most certainly the most desperate to leave would know what they did that made them so fearful of the Taliban getting payback.

This is an entirely different matter to the collapse of the Afghan puppet regime. Stop conflating totally unrelated events and putting words in my mouth please.
 
solarz

solarz

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Bellum_Romanum said:
The Jai Hind run FP is now proceeding to push for yet again another destabilizing idea this time the call for Xinjiang independence to be run by one of the article's authors, a self proclaimed PM of Xinjiang lol..these monkeys never f..ng learn.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1427072673058902017
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There image they use for these supporters of ETIM is telling.

This is how actual Uyghurs in Xinjiang dress:


It's pretty hilarious really. On the one hand Western media are decrying the "medieval" beliefs of the "evil" Taliban for oppressing women. On the other hand, without any sense of shame, they promote the same medieval beliefs of the ETIM.

Unfortunately for them, Xinjiang Uyghurs are not Afghan peasants.
 
SampanViking

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windsclouds2030 said:
Do you have info info on Turkmenistan joins CSTO? When the joining happened?

I can not find any piece showing that country has been joining CSTO. The latest piece on Turkmenistan in Dec 2020 showing that country still opted to be neutral: "
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Instead I found this piece through Yandex after trying Google & Bing with no avail:

Minister of Foreign Affairs of Turkmenistan Rashid Meredov met with Ambassador Extraordinary and Plenipotentiary of the US to Turkmenistan Matthew S. Klimow
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It seems this country is not in good state economically, a weak one esp. after Covid-19, so it could be easy to be bought up by Washington's magical $$$. If Kremlin don't be watchful and stern with threat, this country can be the backdoor to create problem in Afghanistan. But I know just little about the Central Asia states.
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I think you could be right to call me out on this, as I have struggled to find the source that I took it from. It was only single source and I am aware that I cannot find any other. I will simply say that the source I took is usually both authoritative and reliable and that they took their information from a briefing from the Russian Foreign Ministry.

Beyond that, I am still confident that the doors are closing and the very dry report you linked between US and Turkmenistan certainly says nothing to contradict that confidence. The best they could say is that both sides were still talking to each other! I would guess that the best outcome the US got was a undertaking not to close the door until after 11th September.
In terms of Investments, I understand that China is very busy in that country and that overall Turkmenistan will care more about the concerns of its neighbours, rather than those of the US. I would add, especially now, when once again the US demonstrates just what an unreliable friend it is.
 
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windsclouds2030

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caudaceus said:
Do we have specific Afghanistan thread?

If not I'd like to ask whether Taliban do have tendencies to spark terrorism beyond Afghanistan border or they are content to simply rule within Afghanistan? I have seen some hot takes that Taliban victories will mean conflict with Iran, Russia, China and other central Asia regions.

Seems people conflate alqaeda and Isis with Taliban
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In the 1990s, terrorists were separated from "Talibans", re-branded as Al Qaeda, “Qaeda” meaning 'base' (a short for "al qaeda data", the database of all fighters usable by the US, "data" was dropped). Many of them being sent, again under the US arrangement, to BOSNIA to fight against the Serbian force as mercenaries for the US interests in the Balkanization plot to break up Yugoslavia.

How the US would love the world to believe that Talibans are some sort of terrorists...
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1426420571093364739

Btw there is one thread titled "China's strategy in Afghanistan" under Strategic Defense but not lively like this cafe-style, much quieter there :)
 
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supersnoop

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Dolcevita said:
PMC make a killing in profit. I know people who kept returning to Afghanistan and Iraq just because it was too financially rewarding. It is also good politics for the administration to keep the US military casualty law.

The problem is the PMC gets a free ride and do not have accountability.
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Coming out of university the military were throwing big money to sign up.

Having a technical degree, there was a signing bonus. If you go to Afghanistan, tax free plus danger bonus.

You could probably come out of uni with a quarter million all money in the bank after 4 years.

In a place like Toronto, you could've bought a small house (with mortgage) and come out well over a million by now, or just dump that money into ETF, or buy a condo and rent it out for cash flow...

Can you tell it was tempting?
 
Gatekeeper

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No messing about. You don't want to get on the wrong side of the Taliban.

Uzbekistan says it shot down Afghan military plane that violated its borders, amid exodus of government officials from Kabul

A plane believed to be carrying fleeing Afghan military personnel was shot down by Uzbekistan's air-defense system after it crossed into the neighboring nation's airspace, officials in the capital, Tashkent, revealed on Monday.

This just doesn't aged well, no matter which way you cut it.

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KampfAlwin

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Uzbekistan says it shot down Afghan military plane that violated its borders, amid exodus of government officials from Kabul

A plane believed to be carrying fleeing Afghan military personnel was shot down by Uzbekistan's air-defense system after it crossed into the neighboring nation's airspace, officials in the capital, Tashkent, revealed on Monday.
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Checking Uzbekistan's military equipment on Wikipedia, it seems HQ-9 is the only listed air defence system in service. This may be the first time HQ-9 was used in 'combat' and have successfully intercepted a target.
 
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