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uguduwa

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Most here are just 24/7 angry and whining about god knows what. It‘s just annoying as hell to read pages upon pages of whining in an echo chamber no less. Once they encounter some counter trolling, they can‘t handle that either and instead cry to moderators for bans. Just terminally online perpetual children waking up and crying.

For a rational discussion, I would rather go to a western forum.
 

pmc

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Japan's decline also is a result of demographics. The older generation who was comfortable in analog systems never used, or realized the importance of digital systems, computation, internet etc. They were not savvy enough. Japan was the originator of the idea of "robots/automation being the solution for demographic challenge." It didn't work out for them.
It worked for Japan. when you look at previous cold war Japan was the wealthiest country and fastest to achieve high developed status. When wealth is generated at this speed what else you expect?. Japanese engineering still highly regarded especially SUVs and Japan contribution to Boeing. Japan is still among the top countries in Semicon. now where is South East Asia with 700m population 30 years after Japan decline? People still moving to Japan.

Only time will tell, but if we are talking about events on the scale of a 15-20 years, India will matter if they do even modestly good. It's already the 4th/5th largest economy
I think you dont know much about India. in 15 to 20 years. there will be like hundreds of millon single women in India if not already. when they earn money. they will influence India GDP and culture. there is alot more that i wont write. India should consider itself lucky that there are Royal Kingdoms. They often give civilized warnings.
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All flights on 49 China-Japan routes canceled
According to data from Flight Manager, as of January 26, 49 routes have canceled all flights for February 2026, marking a further increase from January. In January 2026, the cancellation rate for flights from mainland China to Japan reached 47.2%, up 7.8 percentage points from December 2025. (By Chen Shanshan, Yicai reporter) (This article is from Yicai)
 

Randomuser

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Most here are just 24/7 angry and whining about god knows what. It‘s just annoying as hell to read pages upon pages of whining in an echo chamber no less. Once they encounter some counter trolling, they can‘t handle that either and instead cry to moderators for bans. Just terminally online perpetual children waking up and crying.

For a rational discussion, I would rather go to a western forum.
Would appreciate if you stay there.
 

Eventine

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Still does not change the fact that "Chinese" is never about race or ethnicity, it is a concept of cultural embracement and self-identity. There is really nothing much to argue beyond this fundamental fact unless if you are one of those sinophobic people who wants to balkanize China by going down the route of falsely defining what "Chinese" really means. Or even worse, being one of those clowns who falsely claim that "Chinese" and "Han" somehow means the same thing which is a complete nonsense.

Also, this is not "gatekeeping" at all, this definition of "Chinese" is very very open-minded, which is consistent with the attitude of countless previous Chinese dynasties when embracing this subject. Your comments on hastily deciding that Eileen Gu is definitively NOT Chinese makes you ironically being the only "gatekeeper" over here.
The point of my post was to show that historically, "Chinese identity" (which is cultural, political, and ethnic even in a historical sense) was something actively manipulated by states and persons to gain advantage. This is also happening today, and here, in the case of Eileen Gu, whose chimeric approach to identity ("I am American while in America, and Chinese while in China" - her words, not mine) is a deliberate construct intended to support her family's business and media interests.

By straddling these two worlds, she is able to simultaneously present herself as a Chinese heroine (even though she spends most of her time in the US and isn't a product of the Chinese sports system at all), while claiming American benefits like her education, residency, winter sports training, access to US facilities, elite US sports circles, and American fans. She never emphasizes she's "Chinese" on Instagram, but in the past tried to speak for "Asians in the US" even though she is white passing and did not experience any discrimination as an Asian (if anything, she was targeted as a "race traitor" by whites). That is her privilege as a member of the global elite caught in the intersection of US-China geopolitics.

It maybe impossible for Chinese in China to understand the issues, but here, on an English language board full of emigrants, I expected better discussion. When Eileen claims she's Chinese, the sort of identity she's claiming is different than the actual experience of the vast majority of Chinese around the world. China may choose to recognize her as Chinese any way (even though she still hasn't renounced her American citizenship), but that should be understood as a highly politicized, special case scenario, not a general definition of how China operates (China still doesn't recognize dual citizenship) or how Chinese are defined (which is, without question, racialized today).
 
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Bellum_Romanum

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My point is that you can't rely on the other side underperforming by 3x (the current ratio of Indian to Chinese births) as your national policy.




Japan's decline also is a result of demographics. The older generation who was comfortable in analog systems never used, or realized the importance of digital systems, computation, internet etc. They were not savvy enough. Japan was the originator of the idea of "robots/automation being the solution for demographic challenge." It didn't work out for them.

I agree a shrinking population can support increasing consumption, but you need a major labor friendly push for that. Current Chinese thinking is too conservative, and has leaned on wage and labor suppression rather than enabling higher wages, implementing labor laws etc.

Also, regarding international markets, China (with a war coming over taiwan) will definitely lose most of the international markets, definitely the West.



All valid criticisms.

But my point is that you can't rely on the other side underperforming by 3x (the current ratio of Indian to Chinese births) as your national policy. India may get its act together, higher wealth may lead to people demanding cleanliness, who knows.




Having a racist debasement attitude towards India is different from seeing India as a threat.

India is a definite potential threat to China. This is also the reason why it's unwise for China to lose more people when it is facing against the combined West + India + other countries like Phillipines, Vietnam, Mongolia etc.
The Philippines, Mongolia? Are we in some delululand right now?
 

AssassinsMace

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The only reason why anyone can be optimistic about India’s future is because of China. The West saw any overpopulated country as a shithole country in the non-Western world. That was pretty much their opinion until China disproved them all despite how much they wanted to believe that was true. India is still under Western influence hence why the only optimism India has is because the West so much wants to believe also that their system is superior. India is running on hope that it will outperform China but that’s not enough since the gap between China and India is not narrowing if they think they have all the advantages that China does not.
 
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