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[amlosny]

Why so anti-India? The India hate on this forum is sometimes bordering on racist.

https://imgur.com/a/zdkjYXg

P.S. Don't check that X account.

 

[MortyandRick]

Japan's decline also is a result of demographics. The older generation who was comfortable in analog systems never used, or realized the importance of digital systems, computation, internet etc. They were not savvy enough. Japan was the originator of the idea of "robots/automation being the solution for demographic challenge." It didn't work out for them.

The plaza accords would like to have a word with you

I agree a shrinking population can support increasing consumption, but you need a major labor friendly push for that. Current Chinese thinking is too conservative, and has leaned on wage and labor suppression rather than enabling higher wages, implementing labor laws etc.

Hmmm interesting comment considering that China has been steadily increasing minimum wage. How much higher do you want it to go in one year ?
You're familiar with Chinese labour laws? Which laws do you want China to enable?

 

[tokenanalyst]

My point is that you can't rely on the other side underperforming by 3x (the current ratio of Indian to Chinese births) as your national policy.




Japan's decline also is a result of demographics. The older generation who was comfortable in analog systems never used, or realized the importance of digital systems, computation, internet etc. They were not savvy enough. Japan was the originator of the idea of "robots/automation being the solution for demographic challenge." It didn't work out for them.

I agree a shrinking population can support increasing consumption, but you need a major labor friendly push for that. Current Chinese thinking is too conservative, and has leaned on wage and labor suppression rather than enabling higher wages, implementing labor laws etc.

Also, regarding international markets, China (with a war coming over taiwan) will definitely lose most of the international markets, definitely the West.



All valid criticisms.

But my point is that you can't rely on the other side underperforming by 3x (the current ratio of Indian to Chinese births) as your national policy. India may get its act together, higher wealth may lead to people demanding cleanliness, who knows.




Having a racist debasement attitude towards India is different from seeing India as a threat.

India is a definite potential threat to China. This is also the reason why it's unwise for China to lose more people when it is facing against the combined West + India + other countries like Phillipines, Vietnam, Mongolia etc.

Nigeria has a pretty high birth rate probably one of the highest in the world, with all the respect to Nigerians, do see Nigeria building the next ASML or an increase in the young population are going to make the country structural problems worse.

Then there is the Issue that is pretty clear that AI is going be pretty job disruptive, LLMs or not, the technology is creeping towards replacing billions of jobs. For nations, solving their structural problems is becoming more critical than ever, before is too late.

 

[Africablack]

Nigeria has a pretty high birth rate probably one of the highest in the world, with all the respect to Nigerians, do see Nigeria building the next ASML or an increase in the young population are going to make the country structural problems worse.

Then there is the Issue that is pretty clear that AI is going be pretty job disruptive, LLMs or not, the technology is creeping towards replacing billions of jobs. For nations, solving their structural problems is becoming more critical than ever, before is too late.

It's funny because westerners were saying the same thing about the Chinese. I've learned to never say never. Nigeria doesn't need to build the next ASML, it just needs to transition to a productive economy and it can take it from there.

Nigeria is not a country, it's a colonial contraption that has morphed into an unworkable enterprise. The north is a completely different place from the south in values, culture, and orientation. If the south got its crap together then it can do great things.

 

[tokenanalyst]

It's funny because westerners were saying the same thing about the Chinese. I've learned to never say never. Nigeria doesn't need to build the next ASML, it just needs to transition to a productive economy and it can take it from there.

Nigeria is not a country, it's a colonial contraption that has morphed into an unworkable enterprise. The north is a completely different place from the south in values, culture, and orientation. If the south got its crap together then it can do great things.

No disrespect to Nigerians, I know there are a lot of good people there. But there are structural problems that a high birth rate is not going solve.
In fact when Nigeria develop in the future and the population becomes more urban and educated, especially women, the birth rates are going to collapse like a stone

 

[vincent]

It's funny because westerners were saying the same thing about the Chinese. I've learned to never say never. Nigeria doesn't need to build the next ASML, it just needs to transition to a productive economy and it can take it from there.

Nigeria is not a country, it's a colonial contraption that has morphed into an unworkable enterprise. The north is a completely different place from the south in values, culture, and orientation. If the south got its crap together then it can do great things.

Not until you get rid of the compradors and clean up the corruptions.

 

[siegecrossbow]

https://imgur.com/a/zdkjYXg

P.S. Don't check that X account.

Yeah. How dare we talk smack against Jai Hinds who post anti-Chinese propaganda 24/7 for the past decade or so.

 

[proelite]

If population size and economy size determines national power, century of humiliation wouldn't have happened.

 

[Africablack]

Not until you get rid of the compradors and clean up the corruptions.

For that to happen you need the stars to align.

If a southerner were to touch northerners they'll be accused to partiality, ditto the reverse. What's left is unbearable stagnation.

 

[uguduwa]

Most here are just 24/7 angry and whining about god knows what. It‘s just annoying as hell to read pages upon pages of whining in an echo chamber no less. Once they encounter some counter trolling, they can‘t handle that either and instead cry to moderators for bans. Just terminally online perpetual children waking up and crying.

For a rational discussion, I would rather go to a western forum.