Equation
Lieutenant General
OMG what a terrible way to die. My condolences to his family.
No wonder the prisoner exchange deal didn't went through when the Jordanian government were wanting to see proof that he is still alive.
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OMG what a terrible way to die. My condolences to his family.
No wonder the prisoner exchange deal didn't went through when the Jordanian government were wanting to see proof that he is still alive.
Miragedriver
Brigadier
I can’t believe that things like this are happening in this century…. How cruel and inhuman.
They have always happened.
They happen today very often in many places, particularly the mid-East, and Africa, but also in some locations in Asia and other places as well. Usually 3rd world areas.
Most civilized, modern nations deter it...but even then, there are horrible criminal atrocities by individuals against others.
These ISIS fighters openly commit atrocities and publicize it in an mistaken effort that others will cow before them, and to attract other radicals to their cause.
But they are mistaken.
I expect this act against the Jordanian pilot is going to harden the resolve and strengthen the commitment of Jordanians and their allies to completely defeat them. They will end up extracting a very strong retribution for these acts of barbarity...100 or more to one.
They happen today very often in many places, particularly the mid-East, and Africa, but also in some locations in Asia and other places as well. Usually 3rd world areas.
Most civilized, modern nations deter it...but even then, there are horrible criminal atrocities by individuals against others.
These ISIS fighters openly commit atrocities and publicize it in an mistaken effort that others will cow before them, and to attract other radicals to their cause.
But they are mistaken.
I expect this act against the Jordanian pilot is going to harden the resolve and strengthen the commitment of Jordanians and their allies to completely defeat them. They will end up extracting a very strong retribution for these acts of barbarity...100 or more to one.
Miragedriver
Brigadier
Argentine prosecutor considered call for president's arrest
BUENOS AIRES, Argentina (AP) — Investigators examining the death of a prosecutor who accused Argentine President Cristina Fernandez of agreeing to shield the alleged masterminds of a 1994 terror bombing said Tuesday they have found a draft document he wrote requesting her arrest.
Chief investigator Viviana Fein said the draft detention request was found in a trash bin of the apartment where Alberto Nisman's body was discovered on Jan. 18. It was not included in a complaint Nisman had filed in federal court days earlier.
Nisman was found dead of a gunshot wound in his bathroom hours before he was to appear in Congress to detail his allegations that Fernandez agreed to protect those responsible for the 1994 bombing of Buenos Aires' largest Jewish community center. The attack, which killed 85 people, remains unsolved. Fernandez has dismissed the allegations against her.
Fein at first denied the existence of the document after Argentina's Clarin newspaper published an article about it on Sunday. Cabinet chief Jorge Capitanich ripped up the article in front of reporters on Monday.
But Clarin then published a copy of the draft, which was dated from June 2014. It said Nisman also had considered requesting arrest orders against Fernandez's foreign minister, Hector Timerman, and other officials in her government.
On Tuesday, Fein clarified her earlier statement, acknowledging the existence of the document and saying she made an error of "terminology and interpretation."
"The words I should have used are: 'I know that there was a draft,'" she said. But the draft was not included in Nisman's formal complaint and she said its existence "is not important enough to change the course of the investigation."
Fernandez's government and the Grupo Clarin, which owns the newspaper, have often clashed and the Nisman case has reignited the dispute.
Conspiracy theories have swirled around Nisman's death since his body was found. Authorities initially said he likely committed suicide, but his supporters insist that the prosecutor would not have killed himself and even Fernandez has said that, contrary to initial findings, his death could not have been a suicide.
Nisman had feared for his safety and 10 federal police were assigned to protect him. The officers were suspended as part of the investigation but none have been named as suspects.
BUENOS AIRES, Argentina (AP) — Investigators examining the death of a prosecutor who accused Argentine President Cristina Fernandez of agreeing to shield the alleged masterminds of a 1994 terror bombing said Tuesday they have found a draft document he wrote requesting her arrest.
Chief investigator Viviana Fein said the draft detention request was found in a trash bin of the apartment where Alberto Nisman's body was discovered on Jan. 18. It was not included in a complaint Nisman had filed in federal court days earlier.
Nisman was found dead of a gunshot wound in his bathroom hours before he was to appear in Congress to detail his allegations that Fernandez agreed to protect those responsible for the 1994 bombing of Buenos Aires' largest Jewish community center. The attack, which killed 85 people, remains unsolved. Fernandez has dismissed the allegations against her.
Fein at first denied the existence of the document after Argentina's Clarin newspaper published an article about it on Sunday. Cabinet chief Jorge Capitanich ripped up the article in front of reporters on Monday.
But Clarin then published a copy of the draft, which was dated from June 2014. It said Nisman also had considered requesting arrest orders against Fernandez's foreign minister, Hector Timerman, and other officials in her government.
On Tuesday, Fein clarified her earlier statement, acknowledging the existence of the document and saying she made an error of "terminology and interpretation."
"The words I should have used are: 'I know that there was a draft,'" she said. But the draft was not included in Nisman's formal complaint and she said its existence "is not important enough to change the course of the investigation."
Fernandez's government and the Grupo Clarin, which owns the newspaper, have often clashed and the Nisman case has reignited the dispute.
Conspiracy theories have swirled around Nisman's death since his body was found. Authorities initially said he likely committed suicide, but his supporters insist that the prosecutor would not have killed himself and even Fernandez has said that, contrary to initial findings, his death could not have been a suicide.
Nisman had feared for his safety and 10 federal police were assigned to protect him. The officers were suspended as part of the investigation but none have been named as suspects.
AssassinsMace
Lieutenant General
AssassinsMace
Lieutenant General
Plane crash in Taiwan caught on dash board cam.
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airsuperiority
Captain
I am extremely sadden of the pilot's tragic ending. Imagine his fear and the pain he had to gone through. I feel really bad for him. And IS is so despicable enough to try and ask for the release of that female terrorist. Very tragic Kenji Goto could not be saved
The comment was not meant to be, or lead to a political/ideological statement or argument.
The fact is, bad, evil things happen all over the world. It is sad, but true and a part of the mortal condition. Such events as this are for the nations involved to respond to.
All of this talk about oil money and such just leads to ideology discussions which are not part of SD.
Those comments and responses to them will be deleted.
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That was an amazing video. Can you imagine? driving down a highway and something like that happening right in front of you.
reminds me of the Crash at DFW in the 1980s (I believe) when the large aircraft hit the ground early and scraped across an interstate highway.
Amazing that they were able to save 15 souls. Landing in a shallow river helped a lot and I believe the pilots did an amazing job of missing the buildings and getting it down there where there was some chance for survivors.
Miragedriver
Brigadier
TransAsia plane crashes into river in Taiwan killing 25
DAILY TELEGRAPH UK -- At least 25 people have died in Asia’s latest air disaster after a TransAsia passenger plane carrying 58 people plunged into a river shortly after takeoff in .
TransAsia Flight GE235, an ATR 72-600 turboprop, took off from Taipei, the capital, at around 10.53am on its way to the island of Kinmen but its flight lasted less than three minutes.
Initial reports suggest the aircraft hit a section of motorway shortly after takeoff and then plummeted into Keelung River, around 3 miles from the airport.
There were 53 passengers, including a number of children, and five crew on the plane. By Wednesday night, local officials had confirmed the death of 25 people.
As darkness fell, nearly 200 rescue workers, including teams of specially trained divers, continued the hunt for survivors and victims. Two large cranes were brought to the crash site in the hope of hoisting the fuselage from the murky river.
However, divers said they their work was being hampered by treacherous conditions, including sharp pieces of metal jutting out from the submerged wreckage.
“Nobody knows about the conditions inside [the fuselage] because the water visibility is too low. We can’t see,” Chen Chia Hao, a 26-year-old rescue diver who had been attempting to enter the wreckage, told the Telegraph.
“To be honest it is very difficult to dive because it is quite dangerous.”
The causes of the disaster were not immediately clear but FlightRadar24.com, a specialist website, said the before its crash and had been in the air for less than three minutes.
Desmond Ross, an aviation security expert, said the plane appeared to have suffered "a loss of power at a critical point, perhaps just after take-off, and the aircraft became difficult to control”.
"The video images suggest to me that [the pilot] was in a stall situation with little flight control and it literally fell into the river. Whether that was pure luck or he had some control is a big question at this point,” he added.
In a final message before the plane went down one of the pilots reportedly said: “Mayday! Mayday! Engine flame-out!’”
A “flame-out” meant the plane’s engine had “failed and is not providing any power,” according to Mr Ross, the aviation expert.
A witness, named only as Mr Wu, told local television he had watched in horror from his 25th floor office as the plane came down.
“The whole thing was over in 5 to 10 seconds,” he told Taiwan’s CTITV. “I saw the flight hit the viaduct and fall into the river. I saw a big splash.”
A passing driver captured the flight’s final moments on dashboard camera. The images appeared to show Flight GE235 pitching violently to its left before crashing into the Keelung River, sending a plume of debris into the air.
nother video broadcast on Taiwanese television showed the plane striking a bridge before crashing while a photograph posted on social media showed the crumpled bonnet of a Volkswagen taxi that the plane clipped as it came down.
"I fainted the moment it hit us," the driver, named only as Mr Zhou, said according to a doctor who treated him at Taipei's City Hospital.
The driver recounted feeling "very scared". When he woke up, he felt severe pain in his eyes.
Others were less lucky. A two-year-old boy called Lin Riyao was reportedly fighting for his life in intensive care after being pulled from the river by his father, 38-year-old Lin Mingwei.
Wang Qinghuo, a Chinese tour guide who was among 31 passengers from mainland China, had been due to get married on Sunday to his fiancée. Initial reports suggested Mr Wang had survived the rash but on Wednesday night, Xinhua, China’s official news agency, confirmed he had died.
“I told him that… he should be at home preparing for the wedding. He responded that it was work and that his agency didn’t have anyone else who could go,” Shi Libo, a 28-year-old school friend, told The Telegraph.
Moments before the plane took off, Mr Wang sent friends a message on the WeChat messaging service. “Today is the beginning of Spring," it said. "Let's not fight, let's not be angry. Let's just enjoy this day, peacefully and happily."
Throughout the day Taiwanese television channels carried live images of the rescue effort, as workers in yellow and orange life vests attempted to extract victims from the plane's semi-submerged fuselage. Red dinghies were used to ferry victims to shore.
Weng Kaikai, who knew one Chinese passenger, took to Facebook to celebrate after learning his friend had survived from a television report. “My friend is alive,” he wrote, according to the Apple Daily newspaper. “I almost burst into tears."
Wednesday’s crash is TransAsia’s second in a year. Last July, 48 people died and 10 were injured when TransAsia Flight GE222 crashed during a rainstorm after its pilots were unable to locate the runway.
That incident was one of four major disasters to strike Asian carriers in 2014.
Malaysia Airlines lost two planes, MH370 and MH17, carrying a total of 537 people.
In December an AirAsia plane carrying 162 people crashed into the Java Sea while flying from Surabaya in Indonesia to Singapore. So far the bodies of only 90 of those people have been found.
At just after 8pm on Wednesday, rescue workers used cranes to lift large parts of the wreckage from the water. The plane appeared to have flipped upside down. The cockpit and front section was almost completely destroyed.
Back to bottling my Grenache
DAILY TELEGRAPH UK -- At least 25 people have died in Asia’s latest air disaster after a TransAsia passenger plane carrying 58 people plunged into a river shortly after takeoff in .
TransAsia Flight GE235, an ATR 72-600 turboprop, took off from Taipei, the capital, at around 10.53am on its way to the island of Kinmen but its flight lasted less than three minutes.
Initial reports suggest the aircraft hit a section of motorway shortly after takeoff and then plummeted into Keelung River, around 3 miles from the airport.
There were 53 passengers, including a number of children, and five crew on the plane. By Wednesday night, local officials had confirmed the death of 25 people.
As darkness fell, nearly 200 rescue workers, including teams of specially trained divers, continued the hunt for survivors and victims. Two large cranes were brought to the crash site in the hope of hoisting the fuselage from the murky river.
However, divers said they their work was being hampered by treacherous conditions, including sharp pieces of metal jutting out from the submerged wreckage.
“Nobody knows about the conditions inside [the fuselage] because the water visibility is too low. We can’t see,” Chen Chia Hao, a 26-year-old rescue diver who had been attempting to enter the wreckage, told the Telegraph.
“To be honest it is very difficult to dive because it is quite dangerous.”
The causes of the disaster were not immediately clear but FlightRadar24.com, a specialist website, said the before its crash and had been in the air for less than three minutes.
Desmond Ross, an aviation security expert, said the plane appeared to have suffered "a loss of power at a critical point, perhaps just after take-off, and the aircraft became difficult to control”.
"The video images suggest to me that [the pilot] was in a stall situation with little flight control and it literally fell into the river. Whether that was pure luck or he had some control is a big question at this point,” he added.
In a final message before the plane went down one of the pilots reportedly said: “Mayday! Mayday! Engine flame-out!’”
A “flame-out” meant the plane’s engine had “failed and is not providing any power,” according to Mr Ross, the aviation expert.
A witness, named only as Mr Wu, told local television he had watched in horror from his 25th floor office as the plane came down.
“The whole thing was over in 5 to 10 seconds,” he told Taiwan’s CTITV. “I saw the flight hit the viaduct and fall into the river. I saw a big splash.”
A passing driver captured the flight’s final moments on dashboard camera. The images appeared to show Flight GE235 pitching violently to its left before crashing into the Keelung River, sending a plume of debris into the air.
nother video broadcast on Taiwanese television showed the plane striking a bridge before crashing while a photograph posted on social media showed the crumpled bonnet of a Volkswagen taxi that the plane clipped as it came down.
"I fainted the moment it hit us," the driver, named only as Mr Zhou, said according to a doctor who treated him at Taipei's City Hospital.
The driver recounted feeling "very scared". When he woke up, he felt severe pain in his eyes.
Others were less lucky. A two-year-old boy called Lin Riyao was reportedly fighting for his life in intensive care after being pulled from the river by his father, 38-year-old Lin Mingwei.
Wang Qinghuo, a Chinese tour guide who was among 31 passengers from mainland China, had been due to get married on Sunday to his fiancée. Initial reports suggested Mr Wang had survived the rash but on Wednesday night, Xinhua, China’s official news agency, confirmed he had died.
“I told him that… he should be at home preparing for the wedding. He responded that it was work and that his agency didn’t have anyone else who could go,” Shi Libo, a 28-year-old school friend, told The Telegraph.
Moments before the plane took off, Mr Wang sent friends a message on the WeChat messaging service. “Today is the beginning of Spring," it said. "Let's not fight, let's not be angry. Let's just enjoy this day, peacefully and happily."
Throughout the day Taiwanese television channels carried live images of the rescue effort, as workers in yellow and orange life vests attempted to extract victims from the plane's semi-submerged fuselage. Red dinghies were used to ferry victims to shore.
Weng Kaikai, who knew one Chinese passenger, took to Facebook to celebrate after learning his friend had survived from a television report. “My friend is alive,” he wrote, according to the Apple Daily newspaper. “I almost burst into tears."
Wednesday’s crash is TransAsia’s second in a year. Last July, 48 people died and 10 were injured when TransAsia Flight GE222 crashed during a rainstorm after its pilots were unable to locate the runway.
That incident was one of four major disasters to strike Asian carriers in 2014.
Malaysia Airlines lost two planes, MH370 and MH17, carrying a total of 537 people.
In December an AirAsia plane carrying 162 people crashed into the Java Sea while flying from Surabaya in Indonesia to Singapore. So far the bodies of only 90 of those people have been found.
At just after 8pm on Wednesday, rescue workers used cranes to lift large parts of the wreckage from the water. The plane appeared to have flipped upside down. The cockpit and front section was almost completely destroyed.
Back to bottling my Grenache