>China cuts off access to some critical supplies
>Block off more supplies of your own volition
>???
>Win?
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>Block off more supplies of your own volition
>???
>Win?
The Russians are now aware the Indians lied to them a week ago. This has to be directed at India.
Reminds me of Operation Sindoor. PR Smoke and Mirrors.
Now we know who is going to buy US soybeans and propping up US farmers at the expense of Indian farmers (45% of workforce)
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So did Trump get what he wanted?
The Swedish Embassy is posting memes over this.
Seems like some of you guy's reply to my this comment were somehow not notified to me. And all of you guys' comment were so Anti-China and Pro-Russian I feel that I must make a reply!
I just simply stand by the facts: All I know is that Russia recognized Crimea as a part of Ukraine on its own accord without any duress or under any unequal terms. So why did they do that then? well, I don't know. They really should not have done that, but they did! so who is to blame? And is this somehow your burden to twist against blatant facts and logic (even contradictory to China's own interest) to argue for them? Are you Russian?
Also, as far as I know, the "Crimean referendum" occurs after Russian's invasion of Ukraine in 2014. And when I say "Russian's invasion of Ukraine in 2014", I am not saying it as a western rhetoric, I say this as a factual statement as Russia does indeed recognized Ukraine (inclusive of Crimea) as an independent sovereign country before 2014. So are you saying that a foreign nation, can just invade another internationally recognized sovereign nation, make a foreign-organized puppet referendum and it should be somehow deemed as valid? Do you know how fking insane and dumb this sounds???
Are you also aware the number of countless parallels this kind of BS can be drawn against China if we accept such a BS imperialist logic??? (Such as foreign infiltration in our Taiwan province or even the false British organised conference when they invaded Tibet). There is a reason China is smart to be consistent with logic, and all our claim are all legal to the point where Sinophobes can only resort to smearing when they want to talk shit. This is just basic fundamentals of legality and principles, Russia is imperialistic and does not care any of that, so why would it be your burden to defend them for the path they had chosen to take?
But let's be objective here, we really need to understand what a sovereign nation means. Regardless how much we hate what government a certain foreign country elects, we just simply cannot argue a foreign invasion is somehow a valid move, because that is literally a foreign nation. You guys are completely repeating nationalistic Russian talking points! And look, it is OK to support Russia due to common interest, I do support them to an extent, but as I said, we cannot support them fully and must be cautious where to draw the line. Let alone going full on pro-Russia mode even against Chinese interest! That is not acceptable.
A neighboring country to China, such as Thailand or Myanmar, if installed a government that is extremely Anti-China, that alone does not make it right for us to invade them, or will it make them suddenly "ceased to be a sovereign nation", unless 3rd party foreign boots had already been on the ground or it turned aggressive in a quantifiable way, if not you can only play political games. Our actions had always been consistent with this logic!
However, you could argue that Western countries did the same things as Russia like invading Iraq, but that is literally condemnable just like Russia! This just proved that both of them are imperialistic nations and we are nothing like them!
But NO, the Russians are too damn lazy to go the false "moral" and "justifiable" pretentious route which is a way smarter tactic politically, that is how every smart nation plays. Russians are impatient and strategically unrefined, why should we be sacrificing our own legitimate positions for their own self-chosen apathy towards international political maneuvering?
So all our efforts in political maneuvering all these years for our own self-interest, showing huge restrains against flat out naked military actions, and staying on consistent logic and legitimate frameworks, should all be thrown down the drain for Russia? So I ask you again, are you Russian?
Also, I never mentioned about 1945 boundaries! You are putting words in my mouth and making false equivalences, all for defending Russia! I always talked about the invasions and unequal treaties signed during the Century of Humiliation of China, as well as the Soviet infiltration in Outer-Mongolia and balkanizing of China, these are very condemnable imperialistic moves done against us! I never once mentioned 1945 boundaries! In fact 1945 boundaries is not even relevant as USSR is a big player in 1945, they did not sign any kind of unequal treaty like China did!!!
I DO NOT remember Russia had made any decision or signed any treaties regarding Ukraine from a position of duress or unequal terms. Russian were always dominant from the start, especially in 1945, and they choose their own path. And now dragging our very legitimate position down to their level to make up for Russia's own political mistakes and lack of political maneuvering is something only a Russian and a Sinophobe would do!
I am absolutely disappointed in every single one of your comments, you are basically defending Russian with delusions and bad logics, even at the detriment of China. If you tell me you are Russian, I might understand why you say these things, if not, then that is really a huge shame and disappointment!
Ok, good and so what? As I said, at the end of the day, the fact is that Ukraine is a sovereign nation that is internationally recognized, including Russia itself. Russia recognized it on its own accord without any duress or under unequal terms, that is literally what they did. So IDK what is the argument here and how is that relevant here.
No, it is not my job to argue for Ukraine or for Russia. Nor do I care about that. That is NOT my argument.
I just simply stand by the facts: All I know is that Russia recognized Crimea as a part of Ukraine on its own accord without any duress or under any unequal terms. So why did they do that then? well, I don't know. They really should not have done that, but they did! so who is to blame? And is this somehow your burden to twist against blatant facts and logic (even contradictory to China's own interest) to argue for them? Are you Russian?
Also, as far as I know, the "Crimean referendum" occurs after Russian's invasion of Ukraine in 2014. And when I say "Russian's invasion of Ukraine in 2014", I am not saying it as a western rhetoric, I say this as a factual statement as Russia does indeed recognized Ukraine (inclusive of Crimea) as an independent sovereign country before 2014. So are you saying that a foreign nation, can just invade another internationally recognized sovereign nation, make a foreign-organized puppet referendum and it should be somehow deemed as valid? Do you know how fking insane and dumb this sounds???
Are you also aware the number of countless parallels this kind of BS can be drawn against China if we accept such a BS imperialist logic??? (Such as foreign infiltration in our Taiwan province or even the false British organised conference when they invaded Tibet). There is a reason China is smart to be consistent with logic, and all our claim are all legal to the point where Sinophobes can only resort to smearing when they want to talk shit. This is just basic fundamentals of legality and principles, Russia is imperialistic and does not care any of that, so why would it be your burden to defend them for the path they had chosen to take?
I really want to agree with this, and NATO is a fking shameless organization.
But let's be objective here, we really need to understand what a sovereign nation means. Regardless how much we hate what government a certain foreign country elects, we just simply cannot argue a foreign invasion is somehow a valid move, because that is literally a foreign nation. You guys are completely repeating nationalistic Russian talking points! And look, it is OK to support Russia due to common interest, I do support them to an extent, but as I said, we cannot support them fully and must be cautious where to draw the line. Let alone going full on pro-Russia mode even against Chinese interest! That is not acceptable.
A neighboring country to China, such as Thailand or Myanmar, if installed a government that is extremely Anti-China, that alone does not make it right for us to invade them, or will it make them suddenly "ceased to be a sovereign nation", unless 3rd party foreign boots had already been on the ground or it turned aggressive in a quantifiable way, if not you can only play political games. Our actions had always been consistent with this logic!
However, you could argue that Western countries did the same things as Russia like invading Iraq, but that is literally condemnable just like Russia! This just proved that both of them are imperialistic nations and we are nothing like them!
Russia should be doing a huge infiltration operation to rigg Ukraine back on favorable grounds, go ahead and sponsor a new coup or anything similar.
But NO, the Russians are too damn lazy to go the false "moral" and "justifiable" pretentious route which is a way smarter tactic politically, that is how every smart nation plays. Russians are impatient and strategically unrefined, why should we be sacrificing our own legitimate positions for their own self-chosen apathy towards international political maneuvering?
So all our efforts in political maneuvering all these years for our own self-interest, showing huge restrains against flat out naked military actions, and staying on consistent logic and legitimate frameworks, should all be thrown down the drain for Russia? So I ask you again, are you Russian?
Then Russia should not have anyhow recognised Ukraine willingly and also without duress or any unequal terms then. Should've written those things in the requirement for Ukrainian independence. Your own political missteps are not our duty to remedy. Seriously, I already said this multiple times!
Absolutely not the same, our lands were stolen by illegal invasions and treaties made under unequal terms!!! Both are fundamentally different, DO NOT make the false equivalence between Russia and China. One is for expansionism while the other is simply seeking justice and righting wrongs.
Also, I never mentioned about 1945 boundaries! You are putting words in my mouth and making false equivalences, all for defending Russia! I always talked about the invasions and unequal treaties signed during the Century of Humiliation of China, as well as the Soviet infiltration in Outer-Mongolia and balkanizing of China, these are very condemnable imperialistic moves done against us! I never once mentioned 1945 boundaries! In fact 1945 boundaries is not even relevant as USSR is a big player in 1945, they did not sign any kind of unequal treaty like China did!!!
I DO NOT remember Russia had made any decision or signed any treaties regarding Ukraine from a position of duress or unequal terms. Russian were always dominant from the start, especially in 1945, and they choose their own path. And now dragging our very legitimate position down to their level to make up for Russia's own political mistakes and lack of political maneuvering is something only a Russian and a Sinophobe would do!
I am absolutely disappointed in every single one of your comments, you are basically defending Russian with delusions and bad logics, even at the detriment of China. If you tell me you are Russian, I might understand why you say these things, if not, then that is really a huge shame and disappointment!
lmfao I can't believe modi is actually footing the bill at the expense of his own people
They don’t treat a large segment of their population as people though.
How do these people get paid to write this?
China, are you tired of doing nothing and winning? At what cost of doing nothing and winning? The downsides of winning too much!!
The US self-implosion juxtaposed with China's leapfrogging has induced Copium Derangement Syndrome among think tankers.
Yeah. A lot people seem to forget this. While Indians boast about being a superpowa, big family or whatever, the guys on top would happily sacrifice millions of them to die in some eclipse event for even a small benefit. Psychos do this everywhere but India's caste system makes it a lot easier to justify and make any excuses to comply with law. Also the west will turn a blind eye. Despite what western media claims, the government in China cannot screw over it's people right now as easily and think it will get away without receiving some real damage. They might think that since they look down on it's people.
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manqiangrexue
Brigadier
Nah, not good enough. This chicken needs to die as an example. Don't give them an off ramp, even if they beg with no conditions or threats. Slowly choke the life out of them; the world is better with Western industries gone. They're still trying to talk tough now.