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Skorf

Just Hatched
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I don't need to be school on any Asian history, and my point wasn't about Asian history. Any foreign power that comes in and removes a cultural institution will be treated antagonistically. It doesn't matter whether it's Asia, Africa, or planet Krypton.
This is like the equivalent of a Chinese person inserting themselves into an African discussion about decolonisation and starting to espouse revisionist history about how the imperialist European powers that committed unspeakable atrocities on Africans in the age of colonialism weren't actually so bad, how colonialism has 'cultural value' and is a 'cultural institution'.

You may think you have noble intentions but your post reeks of hypocrisy. We don't get to lecture you on intra-African conflicts. You don't get to lecture us about how East Asian nations settle their conflicts.

EDIT: I think this chain of discussion is getting into rage-baiting territory, most rational human beings should be able to see the logic (or lack of, rather) in the statement quoted above. I will not reply further.
 
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Africablack

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This is like the equivalent of a Chinese person inserting themselves into an African discussion about decolonisation and starting to espouse revisionist history about how the imperialist European powers that committed unspeakable atrocities on Africans in the age of colonialism weren't actually so bad, how colonialism has 'cultural value' and is a 'cultural institution'.

You may think you have noble intentions but your post reeks of hypocrisy. We don't get to lecture you on intra-African conflicts. You don't get to lecture us about how East Asian nations settle their conflicts.
WTF?

If you're going to debate you have to debate on facts. I said deposing the Japanese monarchy will be acting in the same vain as colonizers, I stated it won't go down well and will create resentment, this will make things difficult for China. What the hell does that have to do with a Chinese person inserting themselves into an African discussion and espousing revisionist history? What revisionist history was I talking about? Heck, wtf are you even talking about? Where did I say anything about the Japanese monarchy not being bad? I ridiculed it and called it a mascot.

It's the the equivalent of none of the crap you just wrote and you know it. If you guys are upset and emotional then say so. Don't put words in my mouth and add spice to it. You can become the colonizer if you young'uns want to, it won't end well though.
 

Randomuser

Captain
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This is like the equivalent of a Chinese person inserting themselves into an African discussion about decolonisation and starting to espouse revisionist history about how the imperialist European powers that committed unspeakable atrocities on Africans in the age of colonialism weren't actually so bad, how colonialism has 'cultural value' and is a 'cultural institution'.

You may think you have noble intentions but your post reeks of hypocrisy. We don't get to lecture you on intra-African conflicts. You don't get to lecture us about how East Asian nations settle their conflicts.

EDIT: I think this chain of discussion is getting into rage-baiting territory, most rational human beings should be able to see the logic (or lack of, rather) in the statement quoted above. I will not reply further.
It's honestly very tiresome. This is like the 4th time this has happened in this thread. It doesn't contribute any new discoveries, knowledge or viewpoints but wastes loads of posts going back and forth that eventually devolve into insults. I'm surprised mods being so strict at other times have let this slide for so long. Well I think it's time now for mods to draw the red line once and for all.
 

Ringsword

Senior Member
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Nice, I'm liking her already
Let us all take bets on how long Sanae Takaichi stays in power-me-13 months.BTW ougouah-love your post have never been to Japan-can't underestimate ANY would-be-enemy but the problem I see if Takaichi-crazy-bitch actually strikes/fights China in TW -AR or otherwise the PLA political officers would have a very difficult time restraining PLA/[PLARF/PLAAF/PLAN from launching attacks on their own-they'd be baying for blood.
 

Ringsword

Senior Member
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Curious. What exactly is your source for knowing what people in China really think or say? We have people actually from there who can read and write Chinese. We can do a verification if you want.
Absolutely yes,also many of us still have stories from family of grandparents murdered,tortured,starved/villages/towns/cities ravaged by IJA etc-it's not from a history book.
 
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tygyg1111

Captain
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You mean becoming like the colonial monstrosity you moan about? Their emperor is a mascot at this point but a vital part of their history, it's for them to decide to get rid if they want to and not an outside force. If you try to destroy part of their culture you'll just create hostile neighbors and you'll end up like Russia. China has grown to become a powerful country in its own way using noninterference, it doesn't need to sink to the level of the ethnic European.
Stop thinking of japan along the lines of colonial africa, where outside interference is colonial meddling in something the colonists don't understand, resulting in greater tragedy. The role japan plays in asia is effectively the same as israel in the middle east.
Japan, due to its worldview and culture, sees itself as separate and unique from mainland asia, and thus will always be a source of barbaric instability for Asia. To nullify this dangerous potential, the root cause must be extracted and permanently destroyed. This root cause is: their imperial house, linked with shinto religion, linked with ethnic identity, which together cause a society to close itself in a self contained bubble, separate from the rest.
 
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