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gelgoog said:
Iran only started making their own air defense systems like a decade ago. And much of it seems based on Chinese technology.
The systems don't look bad on paper. Where they may lack is in networking capability and numbers.
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A SAM system can look quite good on paper and be useless in practice. Networking capability is key to boosting the effectiveness of GBAD, but only if such capabilities can be maintained in a contested EM environment. The real battle between aircraft and SAMs is the struggle for control of the EM spectrum. Whichever side establishes EM dominance will wipe the floor (or skies) with the other. Israel is one of the top 3 nations in terms of EW capabilities, I seriously doubt any homegrown Iranian system will have the capabilities to threaten Israeli dominance in that domain. Even if supplied with adequate numbers of more capable foreign systems, it will take years for the military forces of Iran to attain tactical proficiency to challenge the Israelis in EW.
 
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GulfLander said:
A CN vs India story from bloomberg? Expect anti CN narrative framing, focus. Like they focus on a "failed project" in Mauritius, but failed to show Bangladesh/pak/srilanka projects..Will lndia get provoked or goaded? To think India and CN just had meeting of their officials in Beijing recently.


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Overbom said:
Indians feel their performance review by daddy US has directly led to US favouring Pakistan again.

For all it's faults, Pakistan at least delivers. Ok it needs money, but every employee wants that. India also needs money, but doesn't do good job, that's just bad business all around. Nobody wants that

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Pakistan’s Nobel Peace Prize nod to Trump stirs India concerns of US tilt to Islamabad​

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As I previously stated, expect the west to show how it really feels about India more often. It put a lot of money into India to counter China and it underperformed.

US at its core is about capitalism more than anything else. And a capitalist gets very angry when he finds out his investment is massively underperforming and losing money.
 
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Breadbox said:
The effectiveness of a 4.X aircraft against a 5th Gen is near 0, for the former to have a chance, it would require a tremendous advantage in external ISR(to maybe find it) plus datalink for system integration(to get the shot off), this is assuming the former overcommits and expose itself to the aforementioned ISR advantage.

Stealth is the most important part of the survivability onion, the gap is not linear and it's not something that can be replaced by a EW suite on the Rafale. Iran's best option is building up a ground based air defense based on Chinese radar tech, buying aircraft against Israel without the foundational solution against stealth is pointless.
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I will again put the link. This presented in UAE IDEX 2025. The smallest radar on UAV will locate moving targets. This UAV is designed from unprepared runway so payload is small but capabilities are of larger aircraft and they are confident to put expensive payload on it and still deal with foreign EW hundreds of kms. this is not the only thing that radar technology had advanced.

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The Forpost-R can also be fitted with electronic equipment allowing it to act as a radio relay, increasing the communications range of units deployed on the ground. A version of the UAV equipped with an onboard radar has been created for battlefield monitoring, allowing to search land targets, pick-up moving targets, and designate targets to the profit not only of land-based effectors but also naval ones.
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Forpost drone gets radar​

Designers of the Forpost drone have created an option with a radar to monitor hostile objects and provide target acquisition, Zgirovskaya said.
"Designers have provided new capabilities to the Forpost and equipped it with a radar. The task is to monitor ground and water objects, identify moving targets and provide target acquisition to Russian forces, including the Navy," she said.
The Forpost can also operate as a re-transmitter of open and secure communications between military units in the zone of coverage, the spokeswoman said.
New radio communications have expanded the engagement range by a hundred kilometers and provided higher protection against foreign electronic warfare. The drone weighs close to 500 kg. The flight duration is 18 hours and the top altitude is 6 km.
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