Minsk and Kiev

Now since some of us agree with the idea that the PLAN will eventually comission Varyag, how many of us think they will also commission Minsk and Kiev?

PLABUDDY said:

Now since some of us agree with the idea that the PLAN will eventually comission Varyag, how many of us think they will also commission Minsk and Kiev?

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well - if the PLAN will operate carriers in the future, the PLAN should start in the earliest time they can do and they should look to purchase so much experience they ever can do
so
1)
make Varjag operational as full carrier - if possible include a catapult at the angled deck
2)
make Minsk an Kiev operational, with all the weapons they have, as escort carriers (jeep carriers) to carrie Helos
3)
build amphibious carriers as a Melbourne derivat; Helicopters from a carrier could provide support to potential amphibious operations - and including a catapult these amphibious carriers also could carrie light ground attack fighters and trainers;

after some years of experience PLAN could start to create new chinese carriers

Never as aircraft carriers, the plan should use the for their primary purposes, as heavy aviation crusiers. such ships would dramatically increase the fire power of the fleet and could provide helicopter support for amphib landings. the plan already has varyag and multiple indegedous programs going on, turning the kievs into carriers would take too much time and money.

Use Kiev and Minsk as helicopter carriers or cruisers..both will be a good idea. Varyag can carry all the fighters necessary and Kiev/Minsk can carry some helicopters or additional fighters. Now combine these 3 ships and some escorts, they will have a great carrier battle group.

If they actually make the CBG like that, The PLAN would have great adventage in a conflict with Chen Shui Bian and it's ROCN.

dont count on it yet...

i heard a report saying how china was making it;s own light carrier holding 24 planes, and another one saying it was making it's own large carrier holding 50 planes... Varyag+ 2 kiev + 2 slava + 2 52c + 1 52b + 1 956 EM + 2 maanshan
= invincible

now to deal with a us cvbg, add in five facs.

MIGleader said:

dont count on it yet...

i heard a report saying how china was making it;s own light carrier holding 24 planes, and another one saying it was making it's own large carrier holding 50 planes... Varyag+ 2 kiev + 2 slava + 2 52c + 1 52b + 1 956 EM + 2 maanshan
= invincible

now to deal with a us cvbg, add in five facs.

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Didn't China already deny this. About "Varyag+ 2 kiev + 2 slava + 2 52c + 1 52b + 1 956 EM + 2 maanshan
= invincible" how is that invincible? I bet PLAN wont make a CBG like that. It only sounds invincible but when it comes to real life, it won't work that way.

I say
Varyag + some escort

Kiev/Minsk+ some escort both deployed in East and South China Sea.

Minsk is actually a casino now, known as MinskWorld. To bring that thing back to operational status would require the gutting of every single compartment.

As for the Varyag, I think you would run into a brick wall with the engines. Remember, it had to be towed across Turkish maritime territory.

PLAN can't afford to bring any of these back to service status. The only possibility is the Varyag being turned into some sort of helocopter carrier, and that's asking a lot.

Are you really Vince?
You don't sound like him.
First of all, you capitalize the first words in your sentences, and secondly, you are actually writing in coherent sentences.

And you didn't say a single thing about how evil or nazi the PRC is, or how vile mainland Chinese are.

vincelee said:

Minsk is actually a casino now, known as MinskWorld. To bring that thing back to operational status would require the gutting of every single compartment.

As for the Varyag, I think you would run into a brick wall with the engines. Remember, it had to be towed across Turkish maritime territory.

PLAN can't afford to bring any of these back to service status. The only possibility is the Varyag being turned into some sort of helocopter carrier, and that's asking a lot.

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Vincelee i know u are a taiwan seperatist and u don't like mainland and it's ppl. Of course we mainlander can bring varyag and kiev back to work if we wanted to.

Now stop being a pain in the ass and say something logic. Thanks. By the way minsk isn't a casino. It's a military theme park.