Military story thread

netspider

New Member
Finn, I like to read your story, please continue. I enjoyed a lot on your Brazillian vs Venezuelan war. Because my knowledge on this part of world is very limited, sometimes I have to look at globe and do some internet search to understand the geopolitics over there. It is an intresting story in deed.
 

Finn McCool

Captain
Registered Member
I noticed your location changed Zergling. I take it you moved back to Taiwan because it says Taichung. I bet it is quite a change from Wisconsin or wherever you were living before.

Netspider-I'll write the conclusion of the Brazil vs. Venezuela story tomorrow. I can't think of anything to wrote next. Maybe something in Africa, but the militaries in Africa are generally so weak and corrupt that they can't actually win a war.

Maybe Spain vs. Morroco. Spain has a few islands and enclaves on the Morrocan coast that Morroco really wants. I could even have Algeria jump in on Morroco's side. That would be interseting, because NATO would have to protect Spain.
 

The_Zergling

Junior Member
Let me clear up the location mix-up once and for all...

I was living in Taiwan when I first signed up on the board. Then in October last year I moved to Michigan USA, and tomorrow (5/17) I'm heading back to Taiwan for the summer. I decided to pre-emptively change my location to Taichung, my hometown over there. And yes it's a big change, I'm probably going to melt.

But no, I haven't left... yet. A few more hours, then I'm "Leaving on a Jet Plane"... it's going to be so good to go back home after being away from my friends and family for all these months... suffice to say I'm in a good mood right now.
 

Gollevainen

Colonel
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well when you get bored to Finns little fables, Golly can continue the adventures of Paskajarvi part II (part one can be forund on some wargame efforts of us from the past) Anyway good work;)
 

DPRKPTboat

Junior Member
My Story does not involve Taiwan. This is a hypothetical situation of what would happen should China enter the war on terror, and a possible scenario of a Chinese "Small War".

The Story begins with an Islamic revolution in Tajikstan. The former government is sent into exile in Kazachstan. The new Islamic republic of Tajikstan openly attacks the U.S. war on terror and China's suppression of muslim Uighurs in Xijiang. But it assures the world it has no intention of harbouring terrorists. China is relieved, but remains suspicous of the new government, as does America.
One year later, the Bejing Olympics in 2008 get under way. A peaceful scene of sportsmanship. Then suddenly, 9 Al-Qaeda militants take 12 American Athletes hostage in their quarters in the Bejing Olympic Village, in a similar Scenario to the Black September incident during the 1972 Munich Olympics. But this time, Chinese security forces are well prepared. In a cleverly planned operation, PAP Special Police succeed in rescuing all of the captured Athletes, after the U.S. government offers a Captured terrorist at the hostage building and convinces the militants they will be flown to wherever they want. This distracts them, allowing the special police to silently kill 4 of the militants and rescue the athletes. A firefight results, but the Special Police receivr hrlp from a PLA Special forces team which ropes in by helicopter and clears the building. Two of the athletes are injured, but none are dead. Two days later, Osama Bin Laden releases a tape justifying the attacks and saying no U.S. citizen is safe. He also threatens attacks on China if it gets involved in the war.
But China does not heed the warning. It sends troops into Xijiang, which manage to capture members of Al-Qaeda who organised the Olympic attacks in the area. Not surprisingly, Bin Laden threatens attacks.
In October 2009, several roadside bombs are set off at the PRC 60th Anniversary Military Parade in a co-ordinated attack. At the same, 60 Al-Qaeda militants stage a Muslim revolt in Urumqi. The revolt is quickly put down by the PLA and its leaders shot. Hu Jintao calls for "swift Vengeance" against the "Muslim Bandits". Terrorist leaders captured in Bejing and Urumqi are traced to Tajikstan. The PRC demands that Tajikstan hands over any terrorists that it is now known to be sheltering.
In a cheeky and defiant response, the Tajik president calls for proof that the Al-Qaeda terrorists he is sheltering are responsible and says China is "no America" and should not be policing the world.
He has naively underestimated the Chinese. On 25th October 2009, China launches a Blitzkreig style invasion of Tajikstan. Seven Chinese armoured divisions, consisting mostly of T-96 tanks spearheaded by T-99s, cross the border and advance into eastern Tajikstan. At the same time, Chinese Paratroops land in the west of the country and are suppourted by Afghan troops from the south (The Afghan government has accused Tajikstan of aiding Taliban militants in Afghanistan). The Tajik arny is quickly overwhelmed in the west, but paramilitary groups harass Chinese armoured collumns in mountain passes. These groups often ambush armoured collumns in the mountains using RPGs and other anti-tank weapons, creating a similar problem that the Red Army faced in Afghanistan. To combat this, the Chinese develop the "Dustpan and Brush" tactic. This involves helicopters such as the WZ-10 patrolling ahead of the armoured collumns, out of range of RPGs and shoulder launched missiles. They detect groups of guerillas using thermal inagery, and then perfrom strafing attacks, driving the attackers from their hiding places (The Brush), who are then mopped up by light infantry (The Dustpan). The PLA often sends light infantry patrols into areas where ambushes occur. Often the Infantry carry out more stealthy sneak attacks on the guerillas - this is usually carried out by PLA special forces.
The PLAAF bombs enemy airbases and ground forces, but cities are not bombed - China does not want to make the same mistakes made in the Iraq war. The Chinese aerial bombing campaign is brief and on a much smaller scale than American style precision bombing - the assualt is mostly carried out on the ground by armoured collumns which capture key targets. But large precision ARM strikes are carried out on the Tajik air defence system, usually by Su-30s equipped with Kh-31s. The enemy air defence and command system mostly relies on old soviet equipment, and is quickly destroyed. The largest air attcks are against enemy air bases - these are usually attacked by low-level precision attacks by Su-30s, Q-5E/Fs or JH-7s. TV guided missiles and bombs are used to devestating effect, and prove to be more reliable than Chinese LGBs. The airfields are also attacked using KD-63 missiles fired from H-6s. Another method used on airbases and ground forces involves heavy carpet bombings carried out by Tu-22s or H-6s. These methods cripple the Tajik air force, allowing the Chinese to enjoy much air superiority.
Dushanbe airport is quickly captured by the Paratroops and in a well planned airlift, 120 Chinese aircraft land there (including 80 Y-8s and 40 IL-76s) carrying troops and equipment. These troops then advance east from the capital, but remaining Tajik forces (now encircled) prove a challenge. So a second massive airlift is launched. On 27th November 2009, the rumble of Antonov engines is heard in Dushanbe. 12 huge Antonov-70M transport aircraft land at the airport. These are the new versions of the original aircraft that were enlargened and fitted with jet engines in China - the Chinese and Russians both bought this new aircraft, and the PLA is now putting it to good use. Four of the planes carry more helicopters, APCs and tanks for the ground forces - but the others carry PLZ45 and PLZ05 self-propelled artillery, as well as several PLL01 heavy artillery pieces. These are intended to provide heavy suppourt to the Type 66 and Type 89 light artillery already deployed by the PLA forces in the country. Sure enough, under this heavy firepower, the main Tajik army in the centre of the country crumbles completely. Chinese armoured collumns soon sweep west and the two forces are joined.
The U.S. is at first unsure how to respond to the invasion. But eventually the newly elected president Hillary Clinton decides to suppourt China's actions, since it has released the North Korean war criminals that it airlifted during the fall of Pyongyang. In a summit with President Hu in Bejing, she gives China the green light to push further into Tajikstan, and pledges full suppourt, but urges China to avoid civillian casualties. She also invites Chinese troops to fight alongside Western forces in Afghanistan (the coalition has withdrawn from Iraq). Hu accepts the invitation and announces that China will now join the U.S. in the war on terror, pledging that "the Justice of the Chinese and American people will be brought down upon the heads of the Islamic butchers". He also announces that the PLA will enter the tribal regions of Waziristan to probe for Al-Qaeda leaders. Another mass airlift transports Chinese troops and equipment to Afghanistan, while in Pakistan, President Musharraf allows PLA troops to establish bases in his country, from which they comb the tribal regions.
Meanwhile, a PLA "DaDui" special forces team, aided by CIA operatives, launch an operation to capture members of the Tajik government, inlcuding the President, who have retreated to a state palace in the northwest of the country. The group storms the palace in a stealthy attack, and succeeds in capturing the president and his cabinet, as well as several Al-Qaeda leaders. They are then taken back to China and imprisoned. The former government is returned to power, which is welcomed by the Tajik people, since Islamic rule caused economic problems and a loss of freedom, and was not suppourted by the people.
The final and largest battle is at the seocnd largest city of Khudzhand in the North-west, which is still held by memebers of the former regime. The PLA sends its elite armoured and light infantry divisions, including those equipped with the T-99 MBT, to deal with Khudzhand.
Tajik tank divisions, equipped with T-72s rumble out to meet the PLA. They mount a brave defense, resulting in the largest tank battle since the Gulf war of 1991, but they are no match for the Chinese tanks. They enter the city, and are met with fierce resistance, including suicide bombings. But superior Chinese air power and ground strength wins the battle.
The Tajik conflict ends on 30th January 2009, with Chinese losses of 2,000 and Tajik losses of over 10,000. Limited insurgency is carried out afterwards, but it is unsuppourted by the people, especially after scores of Islamic pilgrims are killed as a result of a car bombing directed at a Chinese convoy. Only 3,000 Chinese troops remain in Tajikstan (mostly to provide suppourt to Tajik security forces to deal with remaining militant groups, while national security forces maintain order elsewhere), and Chinese troops withdraw quickly. But the PLA maintains a prescence in Afghanistan and Waziristan.
2 years later, Chinese Special forces, working in conjuction with U.S. intellignece in the border area of Waziristan succeed in capturing Osama Bin Laden and His deputy, Ayman Al-Zawahiri - hiding in a toilet block in a small village - this is a humiliation for the terrorist group, and Bin Laden goes from being a hero among Islamic extermists to an object of ridicule and scorn in the Islamic world. There is a brief minifeud between Washington and Bejing as to whether Bin Laden should serve his prison sentence in either country. Eventually he is tried in the U.S. and Serves life prison sentences in both countries. But Afghanistan and Waziristan still remain a quagmire for the U.S. and China, since the Taliban are still fighting for power, and China soon has to send more troops to Waziristan, which quickly becomes the PRC's equivalent ot the Iraq war - not quite what Afghanistan was for the Soviet union, but it is still a costly war. But Hu is determined to fight on, since Al-Qaeda still has a prescence in the border region. Islamic terrorism remains, but the damaged reputation of Al-Qaeda has left it in the shadow of its former glorly - but it is still fighting on.
 
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MIGleader

Banned Idiot
One year later, the Bejing Olympics in 2008 get under way. A peaceful scene of sportsmanship. Then suddenly, 9 Al-Qaeda militants take 12 American Athletes hostage in their quarters in the Bejing Olympic Village, in a similar Scenario to the Black September incident during the 1972 Munich Olympics.

You had better pay me copyright for this or were going to court!!!;)

Btw, the 60th year parade would take place in october, not march.
Also, china would never send conventional troops and tanks to try to strom tajikastan, it would be like russia-afghnistan all over again.

But i really like your ending. :)
 

Finn McCool

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This is nice. I don't have to support this thread all by myself. Its a labor of love. I now that it will cathch on.

DPRK-I like the story. It is quite accurate I think, but teh one thing I have to say is that it sounds too much like what US planners thought would happen when we invaded Iraq.

The End of the Bolivarian Revolution​

The Brazil-Venezuelan War had been going on for 4 months. It was still essentially a stalemate. To many it appeared that Venezuela was winning though. It was appeared to be withstanding Brazil's blockade very well. Its force had stalled Brazil's Grand Offensive in the Amazon reigions, and had just won a major victory by taking the Guyanan capital of Georgetown. In reality however, Venezuela was hard-pressed. Its forces in Georgetown were in danger of being cut off. Brazilan commanders did not know it, but the Venezuelan High Command had almost no more troops to send to the Amazonian front, and it was in danger of being shattered by one more large Brazillian offensive. The Venezuelan Air Force was gradually losing its ability to keep up the war. Due to an American arms embargo, and the Brazillian blockade, its planes could get no new missles or spare parts. Venezuelan negotiators tried to persuade Brazil to end the war, telling them that the war was like WWI, and thee could be no victory without massive casualties. Brazil flatly rejected peace. The war would continue.

In August, another front was opened. Bolivia, Venezuela's closest ally, had been preparing an offensive into the Brazillian provinces of Mato Grasso and Mato Grasso do Sur, on the other side of the country from where the fighting had been until now. President Evo Morales of Bolivia made a speech on State TV as 45,000 Bolivian troops began attacking Brazillian border posts. He declared that "The Bolivarian Revolution will sweep over Mato Grasso, then all of Brazil, and finally all of the Americas." To repel this offensive, the Brazillan military had few reserve companies and border patrol troops. Orders came through as Bolvian troops advanced slowly across the uninhabated plains of Southwestern Brazil: Send every man with a gun into the fight and slow the Bolivians as much as possible. The Brazillans were transferring two armoured divisions into the area from the fighting in the north of the country, thousands of miles away. (Fun fact-Bolivia has a Navy even though it is landlocked. It even has Marines.) If the Bolivian divisions could move ast enough, it was a possiblity for them to capture the undefended Brazillian capital.

The few Brazillian military officers in the area rounded up as many armed men as they could and sent them into battle as units seperate from the trained soldiers. Most of them were ranchers, farmers or poachers, and almost all of them knew how to shoot and knew the ins and outs of the country. They were tasked with attacking vunerable bridges and convoys. The trained soldier ambushed the Bolivian armoured (if you could call it that) columns. The ill-trained Bolivian troops often broke and ran or deserted. When faced with air strikes by Brazillian Su-25s, they ran in terror at the first taste of naplam. As more and more Brazillian troops were thrown into the guerilla fight, the Bolivians ground to a halt. Soon, Brazillian Leopard 1s arrived and the Brazillians unleashed an armoured counterattack. The tanks worked iwth deadly efficency in the open terrain of the Chaco, or hunting land. It was the same territory where the horrificly bloody Gran Chaco War had been fought decades before. The hungry ill-supplied and despairing Bolivian troops crumbled before the Brazillian tanks. Soon the Brazillians had driven into Bolivia itself at assaulted the precious natural gas fields that Bolivai relied on for survival. The Bolivians were crushed one again there. Several days after the Battle of the Gas Fields, President Evo Morales surrendered unconditionallly. Peru, which had been thinking of invading Brazil as well, was throughly discouraged. Now Brazil turned against Venezuela.

While the Bolivian side show had been going on, Brazil had steeped up its attempts to destroy the Venezuelan economy. Ships of the Brazillian Navy shelled targets on shore in Venezuela, destorying infrastructure targets. The Air Force bombed the Presidental Palace, where Hugo Chavez lived, and the Venezuelan Air Force was barley able to fly to resist. In response, the Venezuelan Air FOrce dropped thousands of sea mines into the Amazon River. The fligts went undetected because almost none of the Amazon Basin was covered by radar. The mines sank dozens of ships, but most of them were civillian.

With more troops than ever, the Brazillians launched a three part offensive to end the war. The first part was to cut off and encirlce the Venezuelans in Georgetown. Most of the divisions that participated in this offensive would then drive across Guyana into Venezuela. Finally, troops on the Amazon front were to attack with renewed vigor and move across the Guyana Highlands, into the heart of Venezuela.

Gotta go now, I'll come back and edit in the end.
 

Obcession

Junior Member
The Tajik conflict ends with Chinese losses of 200 and Tajik losses of over 8,000. Limited insurgency is carried out afterwards, but it is unsuppourted by the people, especially after 3 mosques are bombed by Al-Qaeda. Only 300 Chinese troops remain in Tajikstan, but China sets up military bases in that country, Pakistan and Afgahnistan.

China would almost certainly suffer more than that considering the kind of tactics the PLA uses.

300 troops isn't enough for an occupational force, the US has 130 000 in Iraq.

Other than that, nice story.
 

DPRKPTboat

Junior Member
Obcession said:
China would almost certainly suffer more than that considering the kind of tactics the PLA uses.

300 troops isn't enough for an occupational force, the US has 130 000 in Iraq.

Other than that, nice story.

Thats because by then they've handed over to the Tajik army - remember, there isn't much insurgency because the previous Islmaic government was unpopular. You only need that amny troops to maintain a military outpost there. But maybe I should change that figure.
And Al-Qaeda may bomb mosques - remember, Al-Zarqawi's done that in Iraq. And the PLA may have changed their tactics - they'd probably model an Invasion of Tajikstan on the invasion of Iraq.

I have taken your points and edited my story slightly. Its the same story, but with some changes. Read it if you wish.
 
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