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Kampfwagen

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Re: any info about 5.8mm type 88B GPMG

What 7.62MM GPMG would that be? I remember hearing of a Type-81 LMG conversion, and of course there is the RPD version China uses (Though I seriously doubt they would still be using one of those, even if they were good weapons), and I also heard they have PKM's...

So, again, What's China's 7.62MM GPMG?
 

isthvan

Tailgunner
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Re: any info about 5.8mm type 88B GPMG

In most of pictures I have seen Chinese soldiers were armed whit Chinese RPD… I didn’t see any picture of soldier equipped whit PKM… IMHO PKM is great weapon and if I would have large stocks of 7.62x54 ammo I would definitely incorporate PKM as standard GPGM…
 

MadMax

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Re: any info about 5.8mm type 88B GPMG

I think that since China is taking the leap and going for a new assault rifle round they should take this oppertunity to go with a more modern round for GPMG and sniper rifle use then the 7.62x54mm rimmed ammo which is poorly suited for belt fed weapons. I think as it stands now china should either go with a rimless version of the 7.62x54 or go for a 7.62x51mm NATO round which is already used in the type 85 sniper rifle.
 

sumdud

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Re: any info about 5.8mm type 88B GPMG

Here's a page about China's .30 caliber HMGs.

And I doubt China has any NATO 7.62s. Their type 85s use 7.62 x 54 don't they?

China uses a steel core round with this gun, so their range shouldn't stink that bad, but since diameter is so small, I'd agree that this thing has too little power. (What can such calibers do outside the anti-personel role?)
 

RedMercury

Junior Member
Re: any info about 5.8mm type 88B GPMG

GPMGs:
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One of the hidden pages pending update I think.

Type 81 family and type 95 family both have a SAW version. The new LMG is the type 88. Whether it will completely replace older GPMGs is open to speculation. The military planners have already decided upon the 5.8mm family and committed the change over. Though PLA seems to have all kinds of cannon rounds, I think the possibility of another new small arms round is pretty slim.

I highly doubt any PLA small arms weapon will use a NATO round; the military doctrine cannot allow captured ammo to be used by invaders. PAP or swat police might use a sniper rifle with a nato round, but I don't think the type-85 does.
 

MadMax

Junior Member
Re: any info about 5.8mm type 88B GPMG

Yes thats why i think china should go for a rimless version of the 7.62x54 for a new generation of GPMG as it will allow for a simpler and more reliabel design. China definetly need a new GPMG soon as the type 67 is gettin really old and is on the heavy side for its intended role. I don't doubt that the heavier MG 5.8x42 can get out to the effective range of a 7.62 but how much power and penetration it will have at that range is questionable.
 

PiNpOiNt99

Just Hatched
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Re: any info about 5.8mm type 88B GPMG

i agree with u MM i think china should be using a higher caliber for atleast its GPMG and sniper rifles. because the lower calibers arent as affective as has been proven in iraq and vietnam. But with 7.62mm ammo it will put the target down in usually 1 shot.
 

Shingy

New Member
Re: any info about 5.8mm type 88B GPMG

RedMercury said:
I highly doubt any PLA small arms weapon will use a NATO round; the military doctrine cannot allow captured ammo to be used by invaders. PAP or swat police might use a sniper rifle with a nato round, but I don't think the type-85 does.
Well enlight of this, would it not work both ways, i mean what if they capture some ammo supplies, then it would be useless for the Chinese.
 

caksz

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New Iran Jet ?

During the recently war training , they show an F-14 ,F4 ,F5 ,MIG-29 doing live firing and hell even a mobile tracked I-HAWK SAM they claimn using a new jet but i'll cant see them , anyone have pics or specs of it ? Is it the plane an indigenous design ? :confused:

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