Light/Ultra-light Military Utility vehicle Thread


TerraN_EmpirE

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You can't stack DAGOR plus Dagor can carry more people. up to 9.
A .50 Mg one side and a 3.5" rocket launcher (Bazooka) the other.
What is it? A very cheap tank maybe?



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Not Quite. Anti armor weapons and Machine guns were common on light vehicles especially for Commandos like the second world wars, Long Range Desert Group for example took US Made Jeeps and touring cars Stripped them of any unnecessary parts, doors, windshields seats. loaded them up with fuel, spare tire and most impotantly with recoil less weapons, mortars and Machine guns.. no more machine guns.. and submachine guns... and rifles and more guns then used them in fast hit and run night raids against German runways and positions in the desert. They would creep up on a enemy position then drive through the position in a diamond formation at high speed spraying lead.
 
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TerraN_EmpirE

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pretty much. They also seem to want to top it with a Bushmaster 30mm Cannon, add in some M240's maybe a infantry Javelin missile launcher and talk about Road Rage a light truck like that loaded like a IFV!! little dog BIG BITE
 

Miragedriver

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pretty much. They also seem to want to top it with a Bushmaster 30mm Cannon, add in some M240's and talk about Road Rage a light truck like that loaded like a IFV!! little dog BIG BITE
Realistically I can see vehicles like the Gaucho and the Dagor evolving into excellent: long range patrol vehicles, recon vehicles, and lite strike vehicles.

However I think some people in procurement have been watching too many Mad Max movies from the 1980’s


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TerraN_EmpirE

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Of course now that I think of it perhaps this would be a good time to cover what is perhaps the cheapest and most widely seen up-gunned light utility vehicle. The Technical. The most Famous being the Classic Toyota pickup. toyota  truck_armed_with_a_DShK_heavy_machine_gun.jpg
this perhaps the most cost effective light vehicle you can find. all you need is a flat bed pickup, some steel, a weapon and some one with half a brain and a welding torch. hell some times just a pick up and a bunch of guys willing to hang on for dear life with guns. weapons can range from simple belt fed LMG's like the M60, Fn Mag, RPD, PK to heavy MG's like the M2 or Kord to Antiaircraft guns Ali_Hassan_al-Jaber_Brigade.jpg
Like these with ZPU 23 2 cannons firing 23mm and even some with Rocket launchers taken from Aircraft.
Now a often forgotten fact is Insurgents and Crime lords are not the only ones who use such vehicles. Governments even top military forces also use such form time to time. In Afghanistan for example early on USSocom needing vehicles of operations literally sent personal to dealerships around there bases in the US and bought trucks off the showroom floor drove them to base modified them and flew them in country. the Irish Army Ranger wing uses modified Ford Rangers, F450 and Nissan Navara pickups similarly modified for military duties. They give a number of advantages, easy to get parts just blends in just about everywhere so it's low profile and rugged as heck. Cheap and easy to train drivers as just about any one with a licence can operate them. the only down side is they are light on armor vs a dedicated modern military vehicle.
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But then again perhaps appearances can be deceptive. Tank this pick up for example. What if I told you that it was armored? That the Engine that powers it is a Cummins ISB4.5 a power plant normally found in wheeled or tracked APCs? and What if I told you that with a few modifications if can look like just about any pick up on the market? Navstar Defence SOTV-B
 

Miragedriver

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These are an interesting class of improvised combat vehicles (“technicals”) mostly used by insurgents and very poor third world nations.

Cheap to acquire, but offers no protection to crew, even against small arms. Even the Gaucho and the Dagor offer small arms protection. With kelar inserts


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TerraN_EmpirE

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remember what i said at the start, In the beginning all military vehicles were what we would call "Technicals" Touring cars with MG's mounted being driven by hell bent for leather characters like George S. Patton Jr, with a chrome plated Ivory handled Colt Peacemaker on his hip.

the term "technical" came from "technical assistance grants" which were more or less payments made to Somali hired guns so they would act as body guards for NGO's in Somalia. They used such vehicles commonly and soon the term was branded on such gun trucks which had been used far before the 1990's Somali conflict. infact the Toyota war was named such because of wide spread use of Toyota trucks as technicals
 

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