Active propagandizing should be a bannable offense. And before anyone suggests that would eliminate communication with those that have a pro-America or anti-China orientation, I should remind everyone that Lyle Goldstein, Kishore Mahbubani, M. K. Bhadrakumar, Shaun Rein, Cyrus Janssen, and numerous members of this forum are pro-American without being propaganda pushers. The main difference being that they put factual integrity above pro-Americanism. Propagandists put pro-Americanism or anti-China-ism above and beyond everything. Facts are irrelevant to them. That is the key difference.
Lessons for China to learn from Ukraine conflict for Taiwan scenario
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Yeah, the problem for Mainland China now is no longer about the Chip, but the Lithograph machine that make the chips. Their problem is no longer with Taiwan TSMC and US Qualcomm, but with ASML and Japan. If they can beat the tech, then China is winning the chip war.
I have nothing against pro-America/West people, actually wished we had more, as long as they keep their propaganda at home. No "spread freedom and democracy" or "look, we gotta ban those Xinjiang products due to genocide!" bs
Like at least be honest with yourselves. Just say I want America to stay the top dog in the world. Perfectly reasonable and understandable.
In4ser
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Where did you get your numbers? That amount is . If you click on the bottom graph “Debt to GDP (China)”you can select and deselect household, corporate and government debt. Most of it is corporate debt (162%) which is why it was a good call letting corporations (which are supposed be entities used for to limit personal liabilities) like Evergrande fail, unlike the US did with its own real estate crisis in the GFC or SVB and Signature Bank.
Korea forces its citizens to bear most the debt, China it forces corporations and Japan its government. Japan’s government debt alone is 266% debt to gdp (US is greater than 135% and China is less than 50% with over a trillion in reserves of US debt) and its going to get worse with trying to defend its yield curve peg from bond short sellers.
The US has debt problems with all three household, corporations and governments.
As of January 2023, China's public debt had risen to 76.9% of GDP... You have 2016 data...
manqiangrexue
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That's a number that the US would gurgle homeless nuts for.
Compared to the US's 120%, which is almost twice as much as that of China, and Europe's 92%. Don't make shit up.
Can you tell me in whose national currency these debts are denominated?
Now you just are deflecting and coping.
are you saying China's public debts are in other currencies?
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