Ladakh Flash Point

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Mekconyov

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AndrewS said:
Looking at the Air to Ground capabilities of the Chinese Air Force and Indian Air Force is the wrong comparison.

Given that you're looking at powered standoff land-attack missiles, why on earth would you want to use expensive aircraft when trucks are a way better option? Delhi is only 500km from Chinese territory.

And remember that the Indian Air Force barely has any Rafales or powered standoff land-attack missiles.

Hotan doesn't have to deal with your imaginary hordes of incoming missiles.

Then contrast that with the thousands of Chinese missiles which could be available, whether delivered by aircraft or trucks.
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Nothing is going to happen if deep states in China or India are not stupid ones to fire upon their own feet (? Airforce missile)
Area is extremely difficult. Few PLAGF thousands troops are at front. Others are with in 100kms.
India is not in good position also. Major Indian troops are around Ladakh and back of Ladakh.
You need earth to stand. Major Indian losses occurred due to slippery ground and troops slipped from height. They tried to hold on barbed wire poles which they were unable to hold in late night conditions. Injured were not attended by the hesitant doctors. Doctors superiority complex helped to increase the Indian casualties. SAR was disaster. China was in same scenario and they managed SAR somewhat better. Even PLA rescued Indians also. None of them would tell the reality.
 
NeutralWarrior

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Can someone please summarize and translate this video?

Supposedly India's SFF got wiped-out on Black Top, captured and released.

 
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Let's not forget. India purchase almost all their high tech weapons. Even the home made ones are dependents for parts from abroad.

Once they fire off all the stock pile (apparently its not that much). They gave to quickly replenished these munitions. How quickly can these foreign suppliers maintain their supplies. And more importantly, how suspectable are they to with stand pressure from China to re-supply. If it means hurting their own interest, will they continue to supply India?

We have seen this in the past, the Falklands conflict. France withdraw supply of exercet missiles upon request from Britain.
 
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ougoah said:
Sure but the account hopping is kinda funny etc. Don't take it all too seriously. On topic of US hybrid war on China, I'm in agreement with you on most points and certainly share your pessimism which is frowned upon by many here. There are always those nationalistic ones who are blind stronkists and those who demand better. On topic for this particular thread, India will not start a shooting war with China. No need for blind China stronkists to tell you that, everyone with military knowledge understands India cannot hope to even defend itself effectively... if those people were betting their own money on it and not just sharing some nonsensical statements online.

The mental gymnastics some people require for a defendable India involves 5 Rafales destroying all PLAAF and hammering Chinese bases with impunity, keeping Chinese airfields shut with two measly stand off weapons at a time. While it will need China over 200 ballistic missiles PER DAY to keep Indian airfields shut. You know the amazing speeds Indians work at where they can repair 200 ballistic missiles worth of damages within 24 hours.
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Now now don't underestimate Indian workmanship.

After all India is the country known for great infrastructure projects and strong work ethics.
 
plawolf

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I think an actual engagement did possibly happen between the PLA and SFF, which would be where the headshot/HMG fire rumours originated.

Such an incident would explain the abrupt and total capitulation of the Indians on the boarder dispute, when it finally dawned on them that China isn’t messing around and that that really was the final straw before a full scale punitive operation was launched.

India instigated s media blackout on the incident, and China is more than happy to play along.

I doubt if the dead SSF guys would ever be acknowledged, since per Indians, they are expendable Tibetan cannon fodder anyways, and per China, these are not Indians. So both sides can say no Indian soldiers died with a straight face.
 
Temstar

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NeutralWarrior said:
Can someone please summarize and translate this video?

Supposedly India's SFF got wiped-out on Black Top, captured and released.

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300 of them by 140 PLA according to rumour on Chinese side. PLA flanked to their rear under the cover of darkness and surrounded them. They may be a small amount of fighting and killing involved.

The Chinese euphemism to describe this event is PLA "folded a big dumpling". Earlier in the thread I posted someone on Chinese social medial talking about this. Here it is again.
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NeutralWarrior

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Temstar said:
300 of them by 140 PLA according to rumour on Chinese side. PLA flanked to their rear under the cover of darkness and surrounded them. They may be a small amount of fighting and killing involved.

The Chinese euphemism to describe this event is PLA "folded a big dumpling". Earlier in the thread I posted someone on Chinese social medial talking about this. Here it is again.
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Yes indeed and reminds me of this update from Eva:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1303774264131293184
 
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