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localizer

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India's military budget is not $100 billion. Maybe India can fly a Rafale into the mountain after this... valiantly defending against J-20 "dragons" in a dogfight. I'm more curious to see how the tractor protest tomorrow in Delhi looks like.
Well tonight in US time is Republic Day and we'll have to see what happens.
 

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Associate Press News report about the brawl says "The two officials said over a dozen Indian soldiers and at least eight Chinese soldiers received minor injuries."

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Over 20 doesn't really conflict with at least 8.

4 concussions or broken limbs are injuries, but not minor.

There is a chance that India Today can still be legit!
 

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Associate Press News report about the brawl says "The two officials said over a dozen Indian soldiers and at least eight Chinese soldiers received minor injuries."

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Indian and Western media saying that there was a brawl that India won. 4 Indian troops injured for 20 PLA troops injured.

Chinese media saying that the brawl is fake news. It never happened.

Associated Press saying that there was a brawl. Around 12 Indian soldiers injured and 8 PLA soldiers injured.

Perhaps we would never know what actually happened there.
 

ansy1968

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Indian and Western media saying that there was a brawl that India won. 4 Indian troops injured for 20 PLA troops injured.

Chinese media saying that the brawl is fake news. It never happened.

Associated Press saying that there was a brawl. Around 12 Indian soldiers injured and 8 PLA soldiers injured.

Perhaps we would never know what actually happened there.
@Sardaukar20

It means the casualties is weather related and the Brawl story is to cover up it's miserable logistic handling?
 

rhino123

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Indian and Western media saying that there was a brawl that India won. 4 Indian troops injured for 20 PLA troops injured.

Chinese media saying that the brawl is fake news. It never happened.

Associated Press saying that there was a brawl. Around 12 Indian soldiers injured and 8 PLA soldiers injured.

Perhaps we would never know what actually happened there.
Well... One can believe what he wanted. I will go for what AP has said simply bcos I don't find confidence in Indian's media who are notoriously good at fake news.... And unless the Indians suddenly became Popeyes or else it is unlikely that not too long ago, they are just being thrashed by the Chinese suddenly became so good in fighting... Especially when the Chinese are well fed while the Indians are half frozen. As to there are no brawl going on... I kinda don't believe in that too.
 

Sardaukar20

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Well... One can believe what he wanted. I will go for what AP has said simply bcos I don't find confidence in Indian's media who are notoriously good at fake news.... And unless the Indians suddenly became Popeyes or else it is unlikely that not too long ago, they are just being thrashed by the Chinese suddenly became so good in fighting... Especially when the Chinese are well fed while the Indians are half frozen. As to there are no brawl going on... I kinda don't believe in that too.
If we go with the AP story that a brawl indeed took place, but ended in more Indian troops injured than Chinese troops. Its gonna raise many more questions.

1) Sikkim is not disputed territory. Why would the PLA want to intrude into that area with men? If China wants to do any intrusion, drones would have been more suitable. There could be plausible deniability if India spots or shoots down any drone. China could say that the drone simply 'wandered' into Indian territory. Sending men over is risking brawls and captures.

2) If China did indeed want to take some piece of Sikkim. This would be quite puzzling. It would bring little geopolitical benefit for China. Though it could bring military benefits. But this would also support India's story of 'Chinese aggression'. Not very good for PR. Plus China at this time don't look like they have any appetite for starting a war.

3) Could the opposite be true? Could it be that Indian troops from Sikkim tried to cross into Chinese territory and got checked by the PLA? Plausible, but also it doesn't add up. Would India be this brazen after what they've suffered at the hands of China at Ladakh?

Maybe I'm overthinking. But having this brawl over Sikkim is quite strange. On one hand, it does not make sense for China today. On the other hand, India and China have fought in a bloody skirmish at Sikkim in 1967. It was a decisive Indian victory according to Indian and Western historians.
 
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