Ladakh Flash Point


MwRYum

Major
I don’t get it.

Dragon fruits are meant to be consumed. Doesn’t eating a dragon fruit symbolize India devouring China or something? You’d think that the Bahkts would latch on to this bit via mental gymnastics.
Same as french fries, and still Americans now renamed it "freedom fries".
From what I read, it seems that Biden Administration is actually trying to de-escalate the tension. Could you include your reference?
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If there's any hint of de-escalation I certainly have missed it somehow, then.
Frankly... if the Indians are stupid enough to do something like that no amount of PR offensive will save them... they will be the ones escalating and basically declaring war with an attack on a civilian target at that, the Chinese would have every right to retaliate and the public would probably demand a response... if the Indian news media didn’t jump the gun and started the media campaign about the Chinese building a village before hand they can still lie and claim the target to be a military installation...

The US whatever they think will have no right to intervene, especially now with a brand new administration, dragging the country into a war with a near peer because your ally decided to bomb a civilian village isn’t exactly what you want to be remembered for in your first month on the job, we are not talking about some country in Africa or Middle East that don’t have the will or arms to response here and by the time the US work up the courage due to development on the ground to use more then just words or something additional to lip service and fabricated a casus belli it would have likely passed the 15 days the Indians expect their ammo stock to last in an intense war and probably would have surrendered already...
It's not hard really, just burn those press and call them fake news (India news media isn't known for its journalism quality to begin with anyway), or "enemy agents against national interest", then release "creditable (fabricated) reports" on military activities in-and-out of that village, and have US (i.e. the CIA) to back it up. With decades of demonizing China on the belt, the mainstream media will lap it up eagerly (i.e. skip fact-checking) and wade in without hesitation, and most certain that the Western world (aka the Free World) will all join in on India's side, if past cases is of any indication.

"China vs the World" is a familiar theme of the last 200 years, so much so that Chinese will go "sh*t, here we go again".

It's certainly a gamble, of course, but not 3D-chess that Joe Biden can't play, besides what better to distract everyone from domestic problems with a "new" flashpoint lit up on Sino-India border, and the hotter the better?
 

Sardaukar20

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LOL.. Naah. Must be bad grammar. The Indian sappers at Ladakh actually just want Chinese food for supper. They must be so sick off the terrible Indian-supplied food they've been getting after all those days (or months) of work and sweat. How nice it would be to dig into some Chinese field ration hotpot at supper for a change. This though is not the way to get it.

They actually need give a shout out to the PLA folks over the border. Then those guys could send the Chinese food over via drone by night fall (for a price). Do enjoy the hotpot. And make sure to spread the word to your other Jawans. They might be lining up for more. ;)
 

localizer

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LOL.. Naah. Must be bad grammar. The Indian sappers at Ladakh actually just want Chinese food for supper. They must be so sick off the terrible Indian-supplied food they've been getting after all those days (or months) of work and sweat. How nice it would be to dig into some Chinese field ration hotpot at supper for a change. This though is not the way to get it.

They actually need give a shout out to the PLA folks over the border. Then those guys could send the Chinese food over via drone by night fall (for a price). Do enjoy the hotpot. And make sure to spread the word to your other Jawans. They might be lining up for more. ;)
Sounds like great idea, someone should suggest to PLA.
 

Kaeshmiri

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In the first week of the new year, Chinese President Xi Jinping instructed his armed forces to be “combat-ready to act at any second” as they began their new training exercises. Mr. Xi also issued new rules for the selection, training and promotion of military personnel. There were several reasons for this aggressive rhetoric.

Firstly, with Joe Biden assuming the U.S. Presidency on January 20, Mr. Xi wants to signal confidence and military preparedness in responding to new U.S. policies on the freedom of navigation operations in the South China Sea and Taiwan straits. Secondly, Mr. Xi’s aggressive pursuit of disputed territories in the South China Sea, Taiwan and across borders with India has increased the chances of military conflicts. Thirdly, the performance of China’s Western Theatre Command (WTC) in Ladakh last year was below par. It suffered a high number of casualties in the June 15 Galwan valley clash. The Indian Army also captured the strategic mountainous heights at Rezang La and other passes.

The performance of the WTC in Ladakh last year was poor for a number of reasons. Chinese troops had seen combat after 41 years and were hence not prepared. They have also been suffering from low morale as the force’s senior officers have not got promotions in time due to doubts about their loyalty to Mr. Xi. Many of them were close to Guo Boxiong and Xu Caihou, both Vice-Chairmen of the Central Military Commission, who were ousted by Mr. Xi in his anti-corruption campaign, according to reports in the Chinese media. While Xu died in custody under investigation in 2015, Guo got a life sentence in 2016.


The WTC has been facing problems in acclimatisation of its soldiers. Recently, 10,000 troops from the WTC were moved to lower locations for recuperation. The force has been struggling with managing the joint training of its army, strategic support and air force units, with the arrival of new fighter and stealth aircraft, rockets, artificial intelligence-based drones and other equipment.


Recently, Mr. Xi replaced Gen. Zhao Zongqi, the retiring commander of the WTC, with Gen. Zhao Xidong, who had served at Doklam in 2017 and is close to him. Mr. Xi reportedly assured the new commander that his men would be given the same promotions and benefits as those in the other theatres, with special perks for combat troops stationed in “tough and remote bordering locations”.

In the past, promotions in the Chinese armed forces were based on the political loyalty of officers, their connections with the Chinese Communist Party leadership and personal background, with merit bagging low priority. Now, the forces are required to display their loyalty to Mr. Xi. The President has also changed the posture of the Chinese armed forces from defensive to offensive.

Borrowing from American military doctrines, Mr. Xi has unveiled an ambitious vision for the restructuring of the Chinese armed forces, by introducing the Joint Theatre Command concept to align with various regional threats. The armed forces are also being infused with new technologies like artificial intelligence and new concepts of “intelligentised” warfare. However, the training of the Chinese armed forces to adapt to these American concepts would not be easy given the lack of cross-fertilisation with other forces, which have successfully incorporated these doctrines.

The country’s armed forces also suffer from a number of other structural issues: they are a political and not a professional force, and the personnel are mostly conscripts with low levels of education and low motivation (mostly from one-child families). They lack a tough mindset and battlefield experience, and face a serious problem of ‘brain drain’. These limitations will certainly affect the performance of the Chinese armed forces in a war with any professional army, as was seen in Ladakh.

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One would think that this was written by a troll but this is actually written by a former Indian Ambassador. If these are the best minds the Indian strategic establishment has to offer then China has nothing to worry about for the foreseeable future. :cool: :cool:
 

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