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ougoah

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The Indian Army Northern Commander literally visited Indian permanent camps in disputed areas of Galwan and Depsang. I posted images from those visits earlier. These were the camps I showed using satellite imagery multiple times a while back .

Sure let's trust what the Indian army says about how great Indian army is. The commercially accessible satellites showing latest 2022 status... do not show Indians controlling the 20%. In fact there's hardly a few shadows on the 20%. Just random small specks. India hasn't got control of the 20% as much as you want and believe so.
 

ougoah

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It is Chinese behaviour to travel with a low profile and not brag too much. Even if China controlled the 20%, Modi will hide that loss and China would not say a word.

India likes to announce pomp and circumstance ... even "victories" when it is a step from defeat. India got its entire country hyped and believing it would become a superpower in 2012. It then failed. It then got most of the country believing it will surpass China by 2020. It announces and talks itself up all the time.

An Indian will always want to look powerful. It would prefer to look powerful (but be weak) than to be actually powerful and look weaker.
 

ougoah

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Let's see 2022 satellite photos (proving source and date ie NOT random Indians putting a date they like on the image) showing India "controlling most of the 20%".

India only has shreds of presence inside the 20%. The rest they don't have presence on and other parts are now buffers. China controls the 80%. If Indians want to consider their token presence allowed by China in that 20% remaining dispute as a victory then that's up to the individual. If India in future wants to make moves on Aksai Chin again, it will have to go to war.
 

ougoah

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Bridge over Lake Pangong.

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Pretty much just on the border of where the disputed stretch starts from China's side (well not China proper since India claims land beyond this).

So this isn't exactly permanent infrastructure within the remaining disputed land. The only permanent infrastructure of China's within the disputed that I'm aware of is the road from F5 into the east and China proper.

Do you know if there are any decent, free, commercial satellites that's updated cover for this region recently?
 

twineedle

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Pretty much just on the border of where the disputed stretch starts from China's side (well not China proper since India claims land beyond this).

So this isn't exactly permanent infrastructure within the remaining disputed land. The only permanent infrastructure of China's within the disputed that I'm aware of is the road from F5 into the east and China proper.

Do you know if there are any decent, free, commercial satellites that's updated cover for this region recently?
That bridge is right on the border between Aksai Chin and Tibet
 

Bellum_Romanum

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Lol no proof of Chinese so-called "state sponsored" hacking but innuendos and misinformation that easily misleads your average Indian public in believing the propaganda coming from one of the CIA fronts disguised as a concern anti-hacking company. It then disseminates their "unbiased findings" through their network of "freedom media" interlocutors all over the world to amplify a lie enough to become truth. Then a new talking point and line of attack is born against China.

It's like saying that the Taliban had something to do with the 9/11 attack in America.

Nice try though.
 

ougoah

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That bridge is right on the border between Aksai Chin and Tibet

It's pretty much right on F8. Aksai Chin is in Tibet. Again we're talking over semantics.

Aksai Chin is Tibet and yet by some definitions for the purposes of being distinct about two regions in the context of the legacy dispute, Aksai Chin is some of the western most parts of Tibet.

This bridge is more or less right on Finger F8. So it's in the Chinese controlled part - 80%. Well on the border of it perhaps slightly to the left (west) and inside the remaining disputed 20%. It's like a 1km or two from the Chinese permanent camp that is on China proper side.
 

twineedle

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It's pretty much right on F8. Aksai Chin is in Tibet. Again we're talking over semantics.

Aksai Chin is Tibet and yet by some definitions for the purposes of being distinct about two regions in the context of the legacy dispute, Aksai Chin is some of the western most parts of Tibet.

This bridge is more or less right on Finger F8. So it's in the Chinese controlled part - 80%. Well on the border of it perhaps slightly to the left (west) and inside the remaining disputed 20%. It's like a 1km or two from the Chinese permanent camp that is on China proper side.

No it's not on finger 8. It is east of sirjiap, which itself is east of finger 8.

This is the approximate location of the bridge



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It is on the border between what is defined by the UN as Tibetan Autonomous Region and Aksai Chin. The dispute begins at finger 8, which is west of sirjiap

This is roughly where finger 8 is

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