Ladakh Flash Point

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Gatekeeper

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I haven't been following the past 1000 pages but could someone succinctly summarize the current border situation? (e.g. both side's status)

Basically, someone is still arguing after everyone have left the room.

The debate over what the actual current border situation is is the reason that there are over 1000 pages.

Debate? That implies there's been a degree of thinking. Of actually using informed reliable information and after passing through grey matter.

But I fear none of that is true.
 

manqiangrexue

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The same applies to China
Not really. When China acts to reclaim its land, it does so by itself, without any alliance and often against an alliance and China hardly spends any effort at all dragging others down (if it does at all) but rather only on its own growth.

While all countries want the same end goal of increasing their power in relation to the power of their rivals, the approach is much different. China approaches it from the perspective of a rising superpower in control of its own domain and confident of its own abilities to grow/develop while India approaches it like a henchman and a chess piece in someone else's game always looking for the cheapest shot to take because he knows he can't stand toe-to-toe in competition.
 

Yodello

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The same applies to China
China could have occupied a large area of India in the aftermath of the 1962 War, but China didn't.
Why is it that many Indians are so brainwahed by the Western Media and Western ideologies that they always think China is some sort of 'evil doer' with wrong intentions all the time?
Are Indians so dumb as to not be able to chart ones own course and create an idealogy that is most suitable and beneficial to the Indian population at large, rather than licking the 'faraangi' or 'Angrezi' ass?
Till date, China has been the most beneficial trading and infrastructure partner with any Nation that China trades and enters Infrastructure deals with.

If India continues to push the narrtive that China is the 'evil commie', that' China is the enemy' (these noise has has has been gaining traction since BJP came into power) that needs to be stopped at all costs, there will definitely be a reckoning.
I'm pretty sure, India will be the one to suffer most; Economically,Militarily and in International stature.
 

Mohsin77

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I haven't been following the past 1000 pages but could someone succinctly summarize the current border situation? (e.g. both side's status)

Sure.

China built new air bases and is deploying robots.

While India pumped infantry and their trolls are bragging about "logistics", because they have winter jackets now... in July.

Check back after another 1000 pages, they should have their second pair of socks by then.
 

Xizor

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Based on official Chinese statements, it seems that the trigger was India finishing strategic infrastructure projects, including within the. 20%, abd areas beyond that China claims. Building Borser infrastructure was one of Modi's policies, and not surprisingly, almost all areas along the LAC are major BJP strongholds.
That's what you want others to believe. China won't risk armed conflict and escalation for " infrastructure buildup" of India in what is traditionally Indian controlled areas. It is not in China's interest , especially at that time, to have armed conflict with any big country.

At Galwan, Indian forces tried to encroach into the bend with their tents and THAT led to clash. Your attempts to paint your leader Modi in a positive light " because he dared to construct Infrastructure" and how China felt so threatened to escalate may serve the domestic politics and audience of India but not the international.

I'll put forward a better theory-

The elites in India wanted to churn within the Indian populace a strong Anti China sentiment inorder to have the support for joining the USA alliance. Otherwise, QUAD will mean too escalatory and a surrender of the much treasured Indian non alliance policy. By creating the Galwan clash and the story of a big bad expansionist China, people wouldn't be averse towards the USA alliance. There would be political support from all sides too. 20 soldiers was the price India was apparently so ready to pay.

I'd say that India was planning for such a confrontation for some time. The US might've dangled the economic carrots as an incentive for QUAD too.
 

steel21

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China could have occupied a large area of India in the aftermath of the 1962 War, but China didn't.
Why is it that many Indians are so brainwahed by the Western Media and Western ideologies that they always think China is some sort of 'evil doer' with wrong intentions all the time?
People who constantly worry that others around them are screwing them over are usually the biggest assholes on the block, partly because only assholes looks upon the world and see shysters and pricks, because that is all they know.
 

Phead128

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China could have occupied a large area of India in the aftermath of the 1962 War, but China didn't.
Why is it that many Indians are so brainwahed by the Western Media and Western ideologies that they always think China is some sort of 'evil doer' with wrong intentions all the time?
Are Indians so dumb as to not be able to chart ones own course and create an idealogy that is most suitable and beneficial to the Indian population at large, rather than licking the 'faraangi' or 'Angrezi' ass?
Till date, China has been the most beneficial trading and infrastructure partner with any Nation that China trades and enters Infrastructure deals with.

If India continues to push the narrtive that China is the 'evil commie', that' China is the enemy' (these noise has has has been gaining traction since BJP came into power) that needs to be stopped at all costs, there will definitely be a reckoning.
I'm pretty sure, India will be the one to suffer most; Economically,Militarily and in International stature.
These are the same people who got conquered by the Anglo-Saxons via "divide-and-conquer" tactics between Indian princely states to the point the entire country was conquered by the British.

Why are you surprised the same people are easily duped into a QUAD alliance to contain China? Same "divide-and-conquer" tactics at play, but to preserve Western global hegemony while two Asian nations fight each other, and the Jai Hinds are none the wiser. The Indians think a quasi-alliance with West against China would raise India's profile but they are just being used as frontline guinea pigs while the West laughs all the way to the bank.
 

Maula Jatt

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True or BS? (Sorry for using this source, I hate this woman with passion but I can't see English Chinese media talking about it nor is the western media)
 
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