Kilo subs

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IDonT

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MIGleader said:
the chinense will have very soon: 12 kilo, 10 song, 2 yuan, 3 han, 1 xia, 2 93, and maybe a 94.

i doubt even the Us would be able to susutain 60-80 kilos.
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The USN actually operates that many subs.

Los Angeles Class (688i)
USS Los Angeles (SSN 688), Pearl Harbor, Hawaii
USS Philadelphia (SSN 690), Groton, Conn.
USS Memphis (SSN 691), Groton, Conn.
USS Bremerton (SSN 698), San Diego, Calif.
USS Jacksonville (SSN 699), Norfolk, Va.
USS Dallas (SSN 700), Groton, Conn.
USS La Jolla (SSN 701), Pearl Harbor, Hi.
USS City of Corpus Christi (SSN 705), Guam.
USS Albuquerque (SSN 706), Portsmouth, NH
USS Portsmouth (SSN 707), San Diego, Calif.
USS Minneapolis-St. Paul (SSN 708), Norfolk, Va.
USS Hyman G. Rickover (SSN 709), Norfolk, Va.
USS Augusta (SSN 710), Groton, Conn.
USS San Francisco (SSN 711), Guam.
USS Houston (SSN 713), Bremerton, Wa.
USS Norfolk (SSN 714), Norfolk, Va.
USS Buffalo (SSN 715), Pearl Harbor, Hawaii
USS Salt Lake City (SSN 716), San Diego, Calif.
USS Olympia (SSN 717), Pearl Harbor, Hawaii
USS Honolulu (SSN 718), Pearl Harbor, Hawaii
USS Providence (SSN 719), Groton, Conn.
USS Pittsburgh (SSN 720), Groton, Conn.
USS Chicago (SSN 721), Pearl Harbor, Hawaii
USS Key West (SSN 722), Pearl Harbor, Hawaii
USS Oklahoma City (SSN 723), Norfolk, Va.
USS Louisville (SSN 724), Pearl Harbor, Hawaii
USS Helena (SSN 725), San Diego, Calif.
USS Newport News (SSN 750), Norfolk, Va.
USS San Juan (SSN 751), Groton, Conn.
USS Pasadena (SSN 752), Pearl Harbor, Hawaii
USS Albany (SSN 753), Norfolk, Va.
USS Topeka (SSN 754), San Diego, Calif.
USS Miami (SSN 755), Groton, Conn.
USS Scranton (SSN 756), Norfolk, Va.
USS Alexandria (SSN 757), Groton, Conn.
USS Asheville (SSN 758), San Diego, Calif.
USS Jefferson City (SSN 759), San Diego, Calif.
USS Annapolis (SSN 760), Groton, Conn.
USS Springfield (SSN 761), Groton, Conn.
USS Columbus (SSN 762), Pearl Harbor, Hawaii
USS Santa Fe (SSN 763), Pearl Harbor, Hawaii
USS Boise (SSN 764), Norfolk, Va.
USS Montpelier (SSN 765), Norfolk, Va.
USS Charlotte (SSN 766), Pearl Harbor, Hawaii.
USS Hampton (SSN 767), Norfolk, Va.
USS Hartford (SSN 768), Groton, Conn.
USS Toledo (SSN 769), Groton, Conn.
USS Tucson (SSN 770), Pearl Harbor, Hawaii
USS Columbia (SSN 771), Pearl Harbor, Hawaii
USS Greeneville (SSN 772), Pearl Harbor, Hawaii
USS Cheyenne (SSN 773), Pearl Harbor, Hawaii

Seawolf Class
USS Seawolf (SSN 21), Groton, Conn.
USS Connecticut (SSN 22), Groton, Conn.
USS Jimmy Carter (SSN 23), Groton, Conn.

Virginia Class
USS Virginia (SSN 774), Groton, Conn.
Texas (SSN 775), under construction; delivery in 2005
Hawaii (SSN 776), under construction; delivery in 2006
North Carolina (SSN 777), named 11 December 2000; delivery in 2007
New Hampshire (SSN 778), named 6 August 2004
New Mexico (SSN 779), named 7 December 2004; construction began in January 2004

Ohio SSGN
USS Ohio (SSBN 726) — Out of service 29 Oct. 2002 for conversion to SSGN, Puget Sound Naval Shipyard
USS Florida (SSBN 728) — conversion to SSGN scheduled for October 2003, Norfolk, Va.
USS Michigan (SSBN 727) — conversion to SSGN scheduled for October 2003
USS Georgia (SSBN 729) — conversion to SSGN scheduled for 2004

Ohio SSBN
USS Henry M. Jackson (SSBN 730)
USS Alabama (SSBN 731)
USS Alaska (SSBN 732)
USS Nevada (SSBN 733)
USS Pennsylvania (SSBN 735)
USS Kentucky (SSBN 737)
USS Tennessee (SSBN 734)
USS West Virginia (SSBN 736)
USS Maryland (SSBN 738)
USS Nebraska (SSBN 739)
USS Rhode Island (SSBN 740)
USS Maine (SSBN 741)
USS Wyoming (SSBN 742)
USS Louisiana (SSBN 743)
 
Neko

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IDonT said:
Los Angeles Class (688i)


The 688 and 688i are two different versions of the LA Class. Consequentally, the LA is not a 688i, but a 688. The first 688i is the USS Providence, which makes all subs of the same type the Providence class, or 719 class. As it were, however, the Providence is only a variation to the original design, so it is not the lead of a new class, it is the lead of the 688i variation. All previous subs of 688 class up to this point are only 688, not 688i.


And MIG, how do you know how unreliable the engines are? Do you own one? Can't be half as bad as my '95 Monte Carlo for reliability.
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Neko said:
IDonT said:
Los Angeles Class (688i)


The 688 and 688i are two different versions of the LA Class. Consequentally, the LA is not a 688i, but a 688. The first 688i is the USS Providence, which makes all subs of the same type the Providence class, or 719 class. As it were, however, the Providence is only a variation to the original design, so it is not the lead of a new class, it is the lead of the 688i variation. All previous subs of 688 class up to this point are only 688, not 688i.


And MIG, how do you know how unreliable the engines are? Do you own one? Can't be half as bad as my '95 Monte Carlo for reliability.
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You misunderstand, the ones that are Italicized are the 688I, it starts with USS San Juan.
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MIGleader said:
60-80 kilos equal the maintenence needs of 1000 subs. look at their unreliable engines.
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A nuclear reactor is more maintenance extensive than a diesel engine and battery pack.
 
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IDonT said:
Neko said:
You misunderstand, the ones that are Italicized are the 688I, it starts with USS San Juan.
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I swear by the statement that it starts with the Providence.

And yes, I am a subsurface squid.
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Neko said:
IDonT said:
I swear by the statement that it starts with the Providence.

And yes, I am a subsurface squid.
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You know you might be right. But the San Juan was the first 688i to be armed with the VLS launchers.
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IDonT said:
Neko said:
You know you might be right. The VLS armed 688i started with the San Juan.
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Yes indeed. And I'll tell you, it changes the interior layout quite a bit. Confused me the first couple times I switched boats, going from a T-boat to an I-boat (these are used to denote specific compartment layouts, although the I does indicate 688i).
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sumdud

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If the Kilo's engines are unreliable, why in the world would there be so many customers?

Russian nuclear engines are bad, but no one ever said their diesel/battery ones suck. Why did the Russians use the Golfs and other SSBs more than SSBNs? At least at start.
 
MIGleader

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look at what happened to china's first two kilo's. nuclear generaters aren't nesscisarily as hard to maintain as batteries. especialy for the U.s, who hasnt used batteries for 50 years.
 
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