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Mr T

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I'm sure most people here were already aware of the new submarine class, but thought I would share. On the basis that Japan is planning to have 22 submarines in service, the submarine fleet will eventually be:

(2 training submarines - Oyashio)
6 Oyashio (older boats decommissioned)
12 Soryu
4 Taigei

No doubt more Taigei submarines will be built to replace the last of the Oyashio subs when they're eventually decommissioned.
 

SamuraiBlue

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The lead boat, Taigei will be commissioned straight as a test bed for new technology that ATLA wants to test for future consideration.
By the way "Taigei" means Big Whale and was formerly christened to a Sub tender ship that was eventually remodeled into Ryuho aircraft carrier in 1942.
 

j17wang

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The lead boat, Taigei will be commissioned straight as a test bed for new technology that ATLA wants to test for future consideration.
By the way "Taigei" means Big Whale and was formerly christened to a Sub tender ship that was eventually remodeled into Ryuho aircraft carrier in 1942.
Looks good! so does this replace Oyashio one-to-one? Japan has managed to keep its submarine construction at a steady pace so that shipyards don't end up being idle, plus you also don't end up needing to hire and let go workers compared to if you just do a shipbuilding program every 30 years.
 

SamuraiBlue

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I'm sure most people here were already aware of the new submarine class, but thought I would share. On the basis that Japan is planning to have 22 submarines in service, the submarine fleet will eventually be:

(2 training submarines - Oyashio)
6 Oyashio (older boats decommissioned)
12 Soryu
4 Taigei

No doubt more Taigei submarines will be built to replace the last of the Oyashio subs when they're eventually decommissioned.
To my understanding none of the Oyashio type subs had been decommissioned as of yet.
2 boats have been reclassified as training boats but the remaining 9 boats are still in service.


As for the Taigei class it seems as if there are only three boats scheduled to be constructed at the moment.
 

hijiki

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It's been learned on August 22nd that the UAE expressed interest in the C-2 and made a request to check how well the C-2 can land and take off of unpaved land. During the development of the C-2, criteria for ability to land and take-off from unpaved land was removed in order to reduce cost. However, the Japanese government agreed to conduct a test in take off and landing from unpaved land in October as part of an effort to export the C-2 to the UAE. The UAE requires tactical flexibility where battle lines may change. While the EU's A-400 was developed with the feature to take off and land from unpaved lands, the C-2 is faster. The C-2 is the successor to the C-1 and has about 4 times the range and 3 times the payload of the C-1. It's development was completed in 2016. Currently 11 are in service. In March, the C-2 has conducted on ground movement on an unpaved runway of gravel stone and dirt in Gifu and found no problems. The take off and landing test in October will occur on the same unpaved road. Data will be collected on safety, vibration on the landing gear, degree of suction of rock and dirt into the engines, and impact on the unpaved road. UAE officials are planned to be invited.
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Janiz

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Japan Plans to Export MSDF Destroyer to Indonesia
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Tokyo, Nov. 4 (Jiji Press)--The Japanese government plans to export the Maritime Self-Defense Force's destroyer to Indonesia, informed sources said Wednesday.
Negotiations on the export are under way with the Indonesian government, the sources said.
A successful destroyer deal, if struck, would provide momentum for Japan's exports of defense equipment and help realize the country's initiative to make the Indo-Pacific region free and open, people familiar with the matter said.
For Indonesia, which has increasingly been vigilant against China's vigorous expansion into the South China Sea, enhancing security cooperation with Japan through the deal would have some deterrent effects against Beijing, they noted.
Last month, Prime Minister Yoshihide Suga agreed with Indonesian President Joko Widodo in Bogor, near Jakarta, to accelerate bilateral talks on defense equipment exports and technology transfers. Defense ministers of the two countries held a teleconference Monday.
[Copyright The Jiji Press, Ltd.]
Actually, those news are from yesterday, after publication in Yomiuri Shinbun. The said destroyer is the upcoming 30FFM (first unit will be launched in the middle of this month) and Indonesian side would like to see it as acquiring 4 of them and building them at home paired with technological transfer of course. We'll see how it will go but it could be the first big Japanese arms export in modern times.
 

Tirdent

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Is that concept art? Or an actual confirmed design
Neither, probably. It's certainly too early in the process for it to be any kind of definitive design, but at the same time it's likely more than an artist's fantasy. AFAIK this layout (along with views other than the one shown here, earlier) comes from official sources, so probably reflects the current thinking at MHI/TRDI. The Japanese MoD has previously released iterative configuration studies on their future fighter at regular intervals, designated 2XDMU (with X being a sequential number).

23DMU from a couple of years ago shares some similarities with this design.
 
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