J-XY/J-35 carrier-borne fighter thread

Schwerter_

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Sorry to reply on this just one last time. You forget the most important perspective: the manufacturer calls this model J35.
That is an aspect I don’t really care about that much tbh, avic have released models that aren’t too accurate before. So yes this is, according to the manufacture, a J-35. However it’s not a very accurate representation of the real J-35.
 

Andy1974

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J35 designers chose not to have a side bay, it’s not a mistake to be fixed, this is the design, work with it not against it. It has a huge main bay capable of holding 4 PL15s. That doesn’t mean it has to hold 4 PL-15s. It could hold 2 PL-15s and 2 PL-10s. Or a new missile that has IR/EO and Radar seekers with datalink or even CEC.

Besides, In all out war, multi-year war with the USA, all high tech forces will be severely degraded, possibly there will be no satellites or surface ships left with all J35s operating from very small land bases throughout the Pacific.

J35 has to be able to fight, and win, in a situation where it is completely alone and has only itself to rely on, in a Ghost of Kiev type situation. Thankfully, it seems well suited to this role as well.


IMO, it’s certain that J35 and F35 will dogfight WVR. Both will be exported widely to air forces that don’t have all the system-of-systems collaborating.

Some possible future matchups of J35/F35:

Israel vs Iran, Saudi, Egypt, Turkey
Spain vs Algeria. Morocco
Argentina vs UK
N. Korea vs S. Korea, Japan
Indonesia vs Australia
Pakistan vs India
NATO vs Russia
 

FairAndUnbiased

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J35 designers chose not to have a side bay, it’s not a mistake to be fixed, this is the design, work with it not against it. It has a huge main bay capable of holding 4 PL15s. That doesn’t mean it has to hold 4 PL-15s. It could hold 2 PL-15s and 2 PL-10s. Or a new missile that has IR/EO and Radar seekers with datalink or even CEC.

Besides, In all out war, multi-year war with the USA, all high tech forces will be severely degraded, possibly there will be no satellites or surface ships left with all J35s operating from very small land bases throughout the Pacific.

J35 has to be able to fight, and win, in a situation where it is completely alone and has only itself to rely on, in a Ghost of Kiev type situation. Thankfully, it seems well suited to this role as well.


IMO, it’s certain that J35 and F35 will dogfight WVR. Both will be exported widely to air forces that don’t have all the system-of-systems collaborating.

Some possible future matchups of J35/F35:

Israel vs Iran, Saudi, Egypt, Turkey
Spain vs Algeria. Morocco
Argentina vs UK
N. Korea vs S. Korea, Japan
Indonesia vs Australia
Pakistan vs India
NATO vs Russia
Think Russia would buy J-35 at some point?

Most of all, soes China have the production capability to spare? Observable J-20 production is glacial after all.
 

Andy1974

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Think Russia would buy J-35 at some point?

Most of all, soes China have the production capability to spare? Observable J-20 production is glacial after all.
I’m not sure if Russia would, but I would if I was them. It is available, it comes with Transfer of Tecehnology AND Local Production is being offered.

I have been recently watching China deliver entire vaccine factories in single shipments this year, a whole factory for local assembly to produce multiple different types of vaccines for various viruses, especially COVID-19.

Chinas latest factories are smart, and cheap to put up, cheap to equip and easy to add tools because they use AI, IoT, and 5G, Data-centers on Chips, and it is all cheap and easy to integrate now.

China is making multiple materials breakthroughs, also in terms of costs, such as replacing diamond components, or rare earths in reactors, and many more examples.

Robotics companies are starting to take serious investments, their prospectus are all about factories, including military uses.

Could these developments, and others, allow a J35 factory to be quickly set up and start pumping out sausages?, I don’t know.

We might only find out about it when the ship gets unloaded at its destination. I still think Saudi or Iran is most likely as the first client, they should get the factory and first export orders. It depends what Saudi does in the next few weeks I think, cause this would be them going all in with China kit.
 

Schwerter_

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I’m not sure if Russia would, but I would if I was them. It is available, it comes with Transfer of Tecehnology AND Local Production is being offered.

I have been recently watching China deliver entire vaccine factories in single shipments this year, a whole factory for local assembly to produce multiple different types of vaccines for various viruses, especially COVID-19.

Chinas latest factories are smart, and cheap to put up, cheap to equip and easy to add tools because they use AI, IoT, and 5G, Data-centers on Chips, and it is all cheap and easy to integrate now.

China is making multiple materials breakthroughs, also in terms of costs, such as replacing diamond components, or rare earths in reactors, and many more examples.

Robotics companies are starting to take serious investments, their prospectus are all about factories, including military uses.

Could these developments, and others, allow a J35 factory to be quickly set up and start pumping out sausages?, I don’t know.

We might only find out about it when the ship gets unloaded at its destination. I still think Saudi or Iran is most likely as the first client, they should get the factory and first export orders. It depends what Saudi does in the next few weeks I think, cause this would be them going all in with China kit.
I doubt that China’ll be willing to transfer technology as well as provide local manufacturing for the J-35. After all it’s going to be one of the main naval fighters for decades to come. Maybe a dedicated export version will be more adequate for this?
 

Andy1974

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I doubt that China’ll be willing to transfer technology as well as provide local manufacturing for the J-35. After all it’s going to be one of the main naval fighters for decades to come. Maybe a dedicated export version will be more adequate for this?
They stated it publicly, basically.

The PLAN will probably have different software and some different parts, maybe even a different anti-stealth coating. They will be mostly similar to allow low costs though.
 
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