J-20... The New Generation Fighter

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Deino

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:mad: Surely not !!

It is also exactly the same picture posted about one page before ... and if "thinking" is not too much (sorry, but I had a hard day and these psed fakes make me :nono:), then everyone camn clearly see that this is a Raptor.

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Flight Global is saying that the JXX will be an 'F-22' look a like, but given how uncharacteristically shoddy this entire piece is written, I'm hardly convinced about the validity of such a statement.

The source is from 2009 and the author still believed that SAC will be responsible for the JXX.
 

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Considering how lousy security has been around CAC, I wouldn't be surprised if photos start to leak out within the next six months.
 

plawolf

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Has anyone had a look on google earth at CAC? It would be interesting to see if they had more than 1 runway. If they had more than one runway, then that would explain how they can keep secret stuff out of the public domain.
 

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Flight Global is saying that the JXX will be an 'F-22' look a like, but given how uncharacteristically shoddy this entire piece is written, I'm hardly convinced about the validity of such a statement.
That article is so full of bs...

I just hope that first time readers who know nothing about the PLAAF will not be led astray from the fact that quantity usually means quality... (just look at sheer number of people on other forums quoting kopp...)
Or maybe it's better to underestimate, actually. Hmph.
 

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That article is so full of bs...

I just hope that first time readers who know nothing about the PLAAF will not be led astray from the fact that quantity usually means quality... (just look at sheer number of people on other forums quoting kopp...)
Or maybe it's better to underestimate, actually. Hmph.

Indeed, the entire article is ridiculous, it almost reads like something out of a Russian aviation forum, I posted it because flightglobal is a fairly regarded civilian and military aviation site but this article would be laughably bad if he weren't serious about everything he wrote. I'm not the sort to claim that I feel 'China is always getting bashed and unfairly and that it can do no wrong' but when it comes to the field of aviation, all of Chinese progress and endeavors are instantly dismissed. The article makes claims that the J-15 is a DIRECT copy of the Su-33 and all Chinese aircraft are copies. It makes no attempt to contact actual Chinese sources or 'experts', or verify all these Russian claims. I guess they couldn't be bothered to even contact a hack from Kanwa I guess! The part that makes me groan the most is the complete ignorance of the advances China has made in electronics such as radar, electronic counter measures etc. etc.

All in all I find this article very amateurish for such a well regarded site like Flight Global but after following Chinese aviation for a while now, its hardly surprising.
 

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Indeed, the entire article is ridiculous, it almost reads like something out of a Russian aviation forum, I posted it because flightglobal is a fairly regarded civilian and military aviation site but this article would be laughably bad if he weren't serious about everything he wrote. I'm not the sort to claim that I feel 'China is always getting bashed and unfairly and that it can do no wrong' but when it comes to the field of aviation, all of Chinese progress and endeavors are instantly dismissed. The article makes claims that the J-15 is a DIRECT copy of the Su-33 and all Chinese aircraft are copies. It makes no attempt to contact actual Chinese sources or 'experts', or verify all these Russian claims. I guess they couldn't be bothered to even contact a hack from Kanwa I guess! The part that makes me groan the most is the complete ignorance of the advances China has made in electronics such as radar, electronic counter measures etc. etc.

All in all I find this article very amateurish for such a well regarded site like Flight Global but after following Chinese aviation for a while now, its hardly surprising.
They do sort of redeem themselves in that they at least mention some of the less-well known programs and concepts (Y-20, Y-9, some of the UCAV ones) but as you say, they are completely ignorant of other advances.

I suppose taking a obtuse and condescending approach in an article like this is good, it means in the event of a real conflict, potential enemies would be surprised :)

(darn it, I can't rate the article 0 out of 5...)
 

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Considering how lousy security has been around CAC, I wouldn't be surprised if photos start to leak out within the next six months.

they can certainly keep it secret if they truly want to. All the major military website have some form of self-censorship to keep the most confidential pictures from getting released. The forum webmaster are in charger of only releasing them when given permission to. Even if someone got a hold of a good picture, he would not be able to get it posted on one of the main forum, which would prevent it from getting spread.
 

getready

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they can certainly keep it secret if they truly want to. All the major military website have some form of self-censorship to keep the most confidential pictures from getting released. The forum webmaster are in charger of only releasing them when given permission to. Even if someone got a hold of a good picture, he would not be able to get it posted on one of the main forum, which would prevent it from getting spread.

i think all nations have some sort of laws against revealing state secrets, I'm sure it is easy for them to locate someone in a forum if he broke the law or something
 
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